I'm sure alot of people would agree when I say that sales in the graphics department here are very biased. People only want the "---" or "-------" signatures. They base ratings off of other sites. To be honest I don't care what you're rated at some other site. I don't care if they think you're some -----, because I browse there on occasion and see ratings that contradict each others. For example my good mate used EvoGFX's tutorials for each sig he posted there, and they looked close to as good if not just as good as the ones in the tutorials that were rated -----. However he got rated moderate or intermediate, and EvoGFX rated this himself. So what does that show you, does he rate himself as intermediate? Hah.. Well anyways I don't care what you're rated at a site full of stuck-up hypocrites. I care about what the sig looks like. For those who agree, we just have to sit here and watch equal to or lesser skilled people make 1k, 2k, 3k off of their sigs while we're lucky to make 50. A prime example is that I got 300 or 400c for a tag I made while I was in Intricate Illusions, and after that I couldn't even sell a tag. -- Well anyways what I am getting to is that if we really want to change this whole biased (not all of it is a load of crap, some tags are really worth the credits spent) setup then we will need to start doing something. I can do all I want, but I can't do it alone. I don't mind good tags getting good credits, but when people come in here and gather 30k with like 100 posts then I get ticked. They boast some rating on some other site and people eat out of their palms, and they sell the same techniques over and over and basically sell out their style. Then they sell the credits for $ and leave or repeat the process. --- Discuss if you will. Don't flame, thats just a waste of time. K thx.