Who Or What Do You Think Created The Earth?

handheldsquirl · Jan 9, 2006 at 5:29 PM

sure redcell lets hear your theory

Amoebassassin · Jan 9, 2006 at 5:51 PM

'The Cosmos' was the first ever licensed product released by Microsoft, thus essentially making Bill Gates, The Almighty.

This would explain why everything sucks in the world right now, and why there have been so many disasters (natural or otherwise) lately. The 'software' has always been buggy as there was no such thing as 'tech support' at the dawn of time.

Things would be so much better if 'Life' were created by Linux. ^_^

.bcn · Jan 9, 2006 at 8:27 PM

Personally, I feel the Human Race should give up as a whole. Medicine is only making Super-Bugs, Money/Credit/Debt is a disaster. Ruining the O-Zone. Killing our friendly Animals. Getting rid of Forests, and tearing up the terra.

iDesign · Jan 9, 2006 at 8:38 PM

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

.bcn · Jan 9, 2006 at 8:42 PM

Originally posted by iDesign@Jan 10 2006, 12:38 AM
Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

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RIP

Oh Marxism, such a beautiful thing if it were to work.

iDesign · Jan 9, 2006 at 8:44 PM

Originally posted by Bacon+Jan 9 2006, 06:42 PM-->

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@Jan 10 2006, 12:38 AM
Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

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RIP

Oh Marxism, such a beautiful thing if it were to work.

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Good Song

.bcn · Jan 9, 2006 at 8:51 PM

Yea it is lol

I actually have a John Lennon "Imagine" Poster, it has all the lyrics, his signature (printed) A Monochromatic pic of him and a little Multi-coloured doodle of him lol. Its right over my pillow.

Beets · Jan 10, 2006 at 5:44 AM

Big Bang Theory

Steven Hawking has already explained that it is infact scientifically possible. The fact that we are here right now as animals is quite amazing. The universe is an incredibly vast place and we dont even populate 0.01% of it. We are here by the off chance. Just to let you all know Earth has about another 5 Billion years existance left. The sun will eventually run out of fuel and become a white dwarf and earth will basically cook. So yea bye bye lol

Greasy Pete · Jan 10, 2006 at 6:03 AM

i belive in the big bang, and ya know, how bigger pieces of rock came together. so if the big bag is true, then the universes are constantly seperating.

lllAE86lll · Jan 10, 2006 at 7:28 AM

Big Bang created the earth :lol:

zelda 64 · Jan 10, 2006 at 9:15 AM

i think the big bang is bull shi

so gases and stuff were floating around made a bang and created the universe..?

so if metal bangs aganist each other a metal house will be created?

as for evolution...how can fish just suddenly go onto the earth when they can't even breathe on the earth...

i myself believe in God (Allah) if there is a universe there has to be a main source of power to have made all of this and of course it is God...Jews,Christians,Muslims we all believe in the same God also...

education....was created by men every last word so all these theorys about evolution and crap were created...and could be fake...

craZy18gurl · Jan 10, 2006 at 10:32 AM

I believe it was done Allah (God).

ColdFury · Jan 10, 2006 at 11:58 AM

God, here is why:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE("ColdFury")</div>

heres a shortened version of a paper i wrote for my philosophy professor:

Where did we come from? How are we here?

“Matter cannot create itself.” A self-evident truth. Yet we, as material beings in a world of matter, are present. Time is also present, and yet, if time were all encompassing, nothing would exist: time has to have a beginning.

Let us look at the world. There are two realms of the world: the Natural and the Supernatural.

Let us define the Natural realm. Natural things are things existent that can be identified by the five natural senses (namely touch, taste, smell, sight, and hearing.), but more importantly, things that can be comprehended. Comprehension of the natural comes mainly from the five natural senses, but also from reason. The realm of the natural is confined by both time and matter, as time and matter are natural things.

Now let us define the Supernatural. Supernatural things are things existent, which cannot be identified by the five natural senses, and cannot be comprehended in their entirety. What can be comprehended is comprehended, through reason and occasionally through word or writing from the Supernatural themselves. The Supernatural exist outside of time and matter.

How can the Supernatural exist outside of time and matter?

Time and matter are natural things. All things natural have a beginning precisely because they are comprised of time and matter. The supernatural, being without time and matter, has no such restriction.

Time. Is it possible time has always existed? No. Why not? Because time is natural. Time is based on natural things, most of all matter (i.e: planets revolving around the sun) and is therefore natural. (Another argument: the Supernatural exists outside of time and matter, therefore time and matter are natural)

Matter. Is it possible that matter has always existed independently? No. Why not? Because matter needs both an origin and a force (to move it).
Matter is a natural thing. It must have an origin. We see that matter moves; the universe is set in motion: planets revolve around stars, moons around planets, solar systems throughout galaxies. However, the laws of Newton restrict this. An object at rest tends to stay at rest unless acted upon by an outside force. Yet we are without doubt, in motion. Hence the need for a “Prime Mover.”

How can the supernatural exist and not be identified by the natural senses?

The Supernatural exist outside of time and matter. The natural senses relate directly to time and matter, hence cannot recognize the Supernatural. Instead, use of reason proves the existence of the Supernatural. (refer to the “Five Proofs” of St Thomas).

But if the Supernatural exists, who created the supernatural?

The Supernatural was not created: Infinite regression must have a beginning. If infinite regression did not have a beginning or end, the natural would not exist.
Things natural would not exist but for things supernatural. The supernatural precedes the natural. The Supernatural can exist independently of the natural, but not vice-versa. The Supernatural exists outside time and matter, therefore the Supernatural are not subject to the natural laws. Infinite regression being a law of both time and matter, the Supernatural is not subject to its confines. Therefore, there must be a supernatural entity or entities.

The Prime Supernatural Entity, called “God,” created the natural.
Take away matter and time, and anything is possible, including, but not restricted to, creation of time and matter. Indeed: God can create other supernatural entities or beings because He is not limited by the confines of time and space. These “other supernatural entities” are called “angels, demons” and the like.[/b]
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Further (probably better as well) proof.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE("St Thomas Aquinas' Summa Theologica")</div>

Whether God exists?

Objection 1. It seems that God does not exist; because if one of two contraries be infinite, the other would be altogether destroyed. But the word "God" means that He is infinite goodness. If, therefore, God existed, there would be no evil discoverable; but there is evil in the world. Therefore God does not exist.

Objection 2. Further, it is superfluous to suppose that what can be accounted for by a few principles has been produced by many. But it seems that everything we see in the world can be accounted for by other principles, supposing God did not exist. For all natural things can be reduced to one principle which is nature; and all voluntary things can be reduced to one principle which is human reason, or will. Therefore there is no need to suppose God's existence.

On the contrary, It is said in the person of God: "I am Who am." (Exodus 3:14)

I answer that, The existence of God can be proved in five ways.

The first and more manifest way is the argument from motion. It is certain, and evident to our senses, that in the world some things are in motion. Now whatever is in motion is put in motion by another, for nothing can be in motion except it is in potentiality to that towards which it is in motion; whereas a thing moves inasmuch as it is in act. For motion is nothing else than the reduction of something from potentiality to actuality. But nothing can be reduced from potentiality to actuality, except by something in a state of actuality. Thus that which is actually hot, as fire, makes wood, which is potentially hot, to be actually hot, and thereby moves and changes it. Now it is not possible that the same thing should be at once in actuality and potentiality in the same respect, but only in different respects. For what is actually hot cannot simultaneously be potentially hot; but it is simultaneously potentially cold. It is therefore impossible that in the same respect and in the same way a thing should be both mover and moved, i.e. that it should move itself. Therefore, whatever is in motion must be put in motion by another. If that by which it is put in motion be itself put in motion, then this also must needs be put in motion by another, and that by another again. But this cannot go on to infinity, because then there would be no first mover, and, consequently, no other mover; seeing that subsequent movers move only inasmuch as they are put in motion by the first mover; as the staff moves only because it is put in motion by the hand. Therefore it is necessary to arrive at a first mover, put in motion by no other; and this everyone understands to be God.

The second way is from the nature of the efficient cause. In the world of sense we find there is an order of efficient causes. There is no case known (neither is it, indeed, possible) in which a thing is found to be the efficient cause of itself; for so it would be prior to itself, which is impossible. Now in efficient causes it is not possible to go on to infinity, because in all efficient causes following in order, the first is the cause of the intermediate cause, and the intermediate is the cause of the ultimate cause, whether the intermediate cause be several, or only one. Now to take away the cause is to take away the effect. Therefore, if there be no first cause among efficient causes, there will be no ultimate, nor any intermediate cause. But if in efficient causes it is possible to go on to infinity, there will be no first efficient cause, neither will there be an ultimate effect, nor any intermediate efficient causes; all of which is plainly false. Therefore it is necessary to admit a first efficient cause, to which everyone gives the name of God.

The third way is taken from possibility and necessity, and runs thus. We find in nature things that are possible to be and not to be, since they are found to be generated, and to corrupt, and consequently, they are possible to be and not to be. But it is impossible for these always to exist, for that which is possible not to be at some time is not. Therefore, if everything is possible not to be, then at one time there could have been nothing in existence. Now if this were true, even now there would be nothing in existence, because that which does not exist only begins to exist by something already existing. Therefore, if at one time nothing was in existence, it would have been impossible for anything to have begun to exist; and thus even now nothing would be in existence--which is absurd. Therefore, not all beings are merely possible, but there must exist something the existence of which is necessary. But every necessary thing either has its necessity caused by another, or not. Now it is impossible to go on to infinity in necessary things which have their necessity caused by another, as has been already proved in regard to efficient causes. Therefore we cannot but postulate the existence of some being having of itself its own necessity, and not receiving it from another, but rather causing in others their necessity. This all men speak of as God.

The fourth way is taken from the gradation to be found in things. Among beings there are some more and some less good, true, noble and the like. But "more" and "less" are predicated of different things, according as they resemble in their different ways something which is the maximum, as a thing is said to be hotter according as it more nearly resembles that which is hottest; so that there is something which is truest, something best, something noblest and, consequently, something which is uttermost being; for those things that are greatest in truth are greatest in being, as it is written in Metaph. ii. Now the maximum in any genus is the cause of all in that genus; as fire, which is the maximum heat, is the cause of all hot things. Therefore there must also be something which is to all beings the cause of their being, goodness, and every other perfection; and this we call God.

The fifth way is taken from the governance of the world. We see that things which lack intelligence, such as natural bodies, act for an end, and this is evident from their acting always, or nearly always, in the same way, so as to obtain the best result. Hence it is plain that not fortuitously, but designedly, do they achieve their end. Now whatever lacks intelligence cannot move towards an end, unless it be directed by some being endowed with knowledge and intelligence; as the arrow is shot to its mark by the archer. Therefore some intelligent being exists by whom all natural things are directed to their end; and this being we call God.

Reply to Objection 1. As Augustine says (Enchiridion xi): "Since God is the highest good, He would not allow any evil to exist in His works, unless His omnipotence and goodness were such as to bring good even out of evil." This is part of the infinite goodness of God, that He should allow evil to exist, and out of it produce good.

Reply to Objection 2. Since nature works for a determinate end under the direction of a higher agent, whatever is done by nature must needs be traced back to God, as to its first cause. So also whatever is done voluntarily must also be traced back to some higher cause other than human reason or will, since these can change or fail; for all things that are changeable and capable of defect must be traced back to an immovable and self-necessary first principle, as was shown in the body of the Article.

The Summa Theologica of St. Thomas Aquinas
Second and Revised Edition, 1920
Literally translated by Fathers of the English Dominican Province
Online Edition Copyright © 2003 by Kevin Knight
Nihil Obstat. F. Innocentius Apap, O.P., S.T.M., Censor. Theol.
Imprimatur. Edus. Canonicus Surmont, Vicarius Generalis. Westmonasterii.
APPROBATIO ORDINIS
Nihil Obstat. F. Raphael Moss, O.P., S.T.L. and F. Leo Moore, O.P., S.T.L.
Imprimatur. F. Beda Jarrett, O.P., S.T.L., A.M., Prior Provincialis Angliæ
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Socrates · Jan 10, 2006 at 12:11 PM

all questions can be answered for those who have faith that there is something more powerful then themselves.

Evrox · Jan 10, 2006 at 12:13 PM

I think earth was like a peace of space and a big explosion made the earth or something lol

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