Discussion in 'Graphics discussion' started by tim2963, Aug 31, 2010.
Bewitching chronicle of previous events, ol' chap.
Also, you CLEARLY didn't read the entire thread.
It's pretty easy to objectively say who's a better designer except when there's a negligible difference between them. While it might be hard to say who's a better designer between two noobs, it's pretty damn easy to see that Neuron is enormously better than Clash, and quite a lot better than me. However it would be hard to say who's better between two experts, like Neuron vs Humac, or Humac vs Hishy.
Yea, maybe I didn't read this thread. You're probably right. No clue where I got the pointless bickering over an opinionated issue like design credentials vs. skill from.
That is true, I will admit you got me there. My only issue is this thread just seems like a huge "my penis is bigger then yours because of _____." I guess I just expected a bit more maturity from a debate like this is all.
I hope I haven't crossed the line by the way, if I have, let me know and I'll cool down.
I made no claim to be superior. i stated my credentials, and left my 'skill' open to interpretation as you would Raphael, Salvatore Dali, George Lois or Denis Peterson... These guys don't seem to understand that art and design isn't a skill, it's an appreciation.
(and Andy Warhol totally pwns all)
konfliqu my friend u are goin to fit right in around here lmfao!
Your all inteligent really we should have a fucking debate section!
This is entertaining and a great learning exp., but like Kon said at the end of the day this is a graphic show off site. Nothing more, a community of designers, future designers, and bullshit artists, i think this topic has met its purpose like the original poster said (he knew this will start some type of up roar) thus him doing it for laughs.
You keep making the claim we can judge your skill by reading your short CV. Then you turn around and say that art isn't about skill, it's about appreciation (wtf does that even mean? I'm guessing nothing).
You have pretty much avoided every request we have made to see this mythical portfolio or an actual sig, probably because everything you've made that you have posted has been shit, and everyone has told you so.
DESIGN is almost entirely skill based. It's the application of visual elements in a technical and scientific way. Design serves a purpose. While it is influenced by creativity and it can be artistic, it is bound by rules.
Anyone who claims that design cannot be viewed as objectively good or bad either doesn't know what they're talking about, or is reflexively defensive about their work (normally because they talk a big game but struggle to produce satisfactory results).
Clash, I AM GOING TO MAKE A CHALLENGE THREAD. If you want to back up your talk, post a sig in reply and we'll let people vote on it.
Now that's what a graphics forum should be about! xD
NOW THIS IS WHAT GRAPHIC FORUMS ARE ALL ABOUT! like watching a boxing committee and two boxers get into a heated debate and one(inverse) challenges the other mofo cus he feels he's soft and everyones wondering will he (clash) accept the challenge!
Nah man it's not even that.
What I was trying to imply, was that Clash says he is pr0z0rz, even though he took like one year at Full Sail and got a degree, whatever that means.
Then he can't back up his pr0z0r skillz with a decent design on here, not counting the crappy sigs we've already seen.
So then he says he works for Vandelay Industries or something which is apparently bigger than Walmart.
Yea, I realized that now. I jumped the gun before I even realized a bit more of the details
Just saw a debate and couldn't resist getting involved.
I think so far what I've seen in the sig section, inverse, hellspawn and concept are the best around here. KUDOS to them.
back your shit up clash this calls for an old school battle ! 3 v 3 ? as in 1 sig , 1 lp and 1 extra graphic that can be anything ?
I'm down. Need a week deadline. I'm tied up at work.
Well the topic is posted, just post up a sig when you've done it.
Ooooh 3 v 3... This sounds awwsome Lol id soo do this sometime if someone wants to!
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