What If... God Didn't Exist?

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  1. Peace 0ut

    Peace 0ut Well-Known Member

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    Forgot to add the [sarcasm][/sarcasm] tags .. i guess only tards dont understand sarcasm
     
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    heh :P well Darwin had loads of theories, and no doubt, but he was doubted ALOT in that time.
     
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    lol@religion
     
  4. I_R_BACK_I_R_LOSER

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    We can observe Micro evolution. It's just Macro evolution we can't observe as it takes place over a long period of time. Like I stated earlier there is a lot of evidence to back up evolution, there is no scientific evidence to back up creation.

    Creationism isn't a hypothesis as it can't be supported or refuted through observation, evidence or experimentation. The only way to proof creationism would be to prove the existence of God.

    A lot of you seems to be confused to what a scientific theory, law and hypothesis are. You seem to think that a theory means it something that is just assumed but in science a theory is something that has being proven and is generally accepted by the scientific community. Theory's change as time goes by and new evidence and observations have taken places, it's not set like a scientific law. Scientific laws are generally statements to explain an action or phenomena.

    Intelligent design and creationism are not theory's as they are not falsifiable and don't follow scientific method, scientific theory's must.
     
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  6. femiCOM

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    This is probably the only post here that makes complete sense.
     
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    I ram bus into gods house and poo in his eyes!
     
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    i dont believe god does exist so imo this thread is complete irrelevent
     
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    Look all them religious people might as well have their eyes pooed out.
     
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  11. I_R_BACK_I_R_LOSER

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    Transitional fossils
    Chemical and Anatomical Similarities Between.
    Both act as evidence, we can test through DNA whether one species is more related to another. Through this we have built up a model which shows relationships.

    I'll start from the basics.
    Evolution is a change in the genes of a population from one generation to another. This can be observed.
    Natural selection is 'the resulting survival and reproduction of organisms due to the varying effects of environmental forces on genetically different members of a population; results in the preservation of favorable adaptations.'
    This has being observed
    Mutations are changes in DNA.
    They have being observed.

    The basic processes of evolution have being observed. Again you don't know what a scietific thoery is.

    No a scientific law is a simple statement to explain a action or phenomnena. Evolution isn't just a single action, it's made up of a number of different proccesses. You are again misunderstanding what a thoery is, it isn't a guess or suggestion. It is an explanation of a set of related observations or events based upon proven hypotheses and verified multiple times by detached groups of researchers. Evolution isn't being taught as a law it's being taught as a theory, of which it is and as which it would stay.

    Once again Creationism isn't falisable as it cannot be proven incorrect without proving God to be incorrect, which cannot be done. IT also cannot be proven true without proving God to be true. Evidence for evolution has being shown(above), thats why it's a theory and creationsim is not.
     
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    Creationists and evolutionists, Christians and non-Christians all have the same evidence—the same facts. Think about it: we all have the same earth, the same fossil layers, the same animals and plants, the same stars—the facts are all the same.

    The difference is in the way we all interpret the facts. And why do we interpret facts differently? Because we start with different presuppositions. These are things that are assumed to be true, without being able to prove them. These then become the basis for other conclusions. All reasoning is based on presuppositions (also called axioms). This becomes especially relevant when dealing with past events.

    The Reason why I believe In Creation. Is I Believe There Is A God. God Is Real. God Is In The World Today. It's All Around You.
     
  13. I_R_BACK_I_R_LOSER

    I_R_BACK_I_R_LOSER Well-Known Member

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    What?
    For the same reason that I wouldn't try a present the idea of aliens creating us as a theory.

    I've stated earlier some of the evidence for evolution. There is evidence and experimentation for 'evolution'. I'm saying Macro evolution can't be observed due to the length of time that it takes to occur. But micro evolution makes up the basic fundamentals of Macro evolution. One of the main pieces of evidence for the idea of a common ancestor is that all known life forms are based on the same biochemistral organisation. Also there are only minor differences in the genetic code of all known species on earth.

    Artificial selection has take place throughout history which shows how a different species can be formed with variation from a common ancestor . Dogs are an example of this, their common ancestor were wolves and now there is a large diversity between the different breeds of dogs.

    Evolution is just as much a theory as Cell theory.

    If there was proof of God then there would be proof of creationism ans God would have created us. Thats the great thing with science, theory's can change throughout time to reflect new observations and discoveries. The base idea of evolution would stay unless it was proven absolute to be false.
    Urm what?
    Im just saying what a theory is.
     
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    Stop talking about ----ting in people's eyes...
     
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