hey nice i got that same forum skin on my website,where did you get the psd for the banner ?? can u send me the psd plzz cuz i got that forum skin but it didt bring the psd for the banner ;(
Because I can make actual art, you know, the stuff they have categories for on DA. You don't see a signature category on DA do you? No, because its not art. Heres a thought, you post a sig, and i'll post some art, then we can go to some place like yaxay or bluesfear where they know what art is, and we'll let them tell you im better than you, sound good?
Sorry But who the hell said you had the right to define art... I doubt youd know real art if it smacked you in the face... Art is ALL about expression correct? Well, people CAN express themselves through sigs...I know ive done it before and many others have...you might want to stop thinking you control what the word "Art" really means Mal..thats what I was trying to say. This guys just so caught up in his own world he doesnt realise.
Signatures aren't art, get over it. Art is expressing youself in such a way that the viewer feels the emotion and theme you are trying to express through the piece, it evokes a feeling, do sigs do that? No, so shut it. And if anyone wouldn't know real art if it smacked them in the face, it would be you and the other retards posting in this thread trying to convince people otherwise. Now, kindly go to school and learn something, your ignorance is getting annoying.
Erm? My ignorance? Says the person so caught up in his own world hes oblivious to all other forms of art. Who the hell says that sigs cant portray an emotion...eh, I know most people odnt aim for that but if you think the better sig makers just go lalalala im gonna make a sig today then youre wrong. Some of my good mates are sig makers and we can make sigs to portay the death of a close friend...something that means a lot to you. A lot damn more than a template ever could
You people are so into aesthetics its unbelievable, signatures aren't an art form, it takes no talent to slap some brushes and an image in a rectangle, you people do sigs because you want respect, which is sad, as the only way you'll get respect from actual artists is if you show some actual artistic ability. And who said anything about website design? I do more then one thing, I just don't show you people anything, as you wouldn't know what to do if an actual art piece was posted here.
Sorry but if it takes no talent how can it be possible for some signature makers to be better than others? And who gives your the right to say no one here knows. Trying to make it sound like youre better than us! Ha...if i did sigs because I wanted respect I woudnt be making them now! Respect isnt gained from making sigs...its gained from helping people and being a generally nice guy...hmm wonder why you arent respected? And there it is again...actual artists! Theres no art in taking a paintbrush and painting, theres no art in making a template. Theres no art in a render theres no art in anything! No one gave you the power to control art...I dont think most people care less about what YOU consider art.
Because they don't know the functions of photoshop, not that hard to understand, how come some people drive better then others, is it because they are more talanted? No, its because they have more experience with a vehicle. Respect isn't gained, its earned, I have the respect of a lot of artists, maybe not the sad little siggy makers, but who cares about them, they're the fodder that feeds the pigs. You speak for most people, or for the siggy makers that think they are awesome because other sad siggy makers tell them they are? We had this discussion with an artist from depthcore over at pixelzero, and he agrees, sigs aren't art nor are siggy makers artists. Now, you can continue to post and make yourself look stupid if you like, i'll just prove my point over and over again, so up to you if you want to continue this.
In this case ill continue. You think you can ask people and get other against me..or at leasst voice their opinions. I dont actually think I care what some random person I dont give a damn about thinks. What matters is what my mates thinks...the people aho are actually brave enough to say whats right. SIGS ARE ART. Hah...Respect isnt earned! Respect should be there to start of with...you then lose it for bad actions or stay with respect for good actions. So please, lower this forums opinion of yourself even firther with your posts... PS If you are so against sigs etc...then why are you even on this forum
I didn't ask anyone, this was discussed before pixelzero shut down, guess danzaman had other things to do. And brave enough to say whats right? Are you sane? Sigs aren't art, you can try and defend your precious sigs if you like, you just prove how stupid you are, and yes, respect is earned, not given. And is this a sig forum? No, this is a graphic community that just so happens to have a signature area.
Sigs are art. What Broken is saying is true. Wallpapers are art as well, but why can't you accept the fact that sigs are also art. All wallpapers are are bigger rectangles with renders and brushing, too. Like Broken stated a few posts back: Art expresses feeling. Sigs can express feeling and so can wallpapers. Sigs also have themes. I've seen quite a few Star Wars themed sigs lately, as well as car themed sigs. Art is "skill acquired by experience, study, or observation" - Sig-making takes skill. We need experience with it to get better. If sig-making took no skill, we'd all have signatures that either sucked or rocked, not some of both. Art is "the conscious use of skill and creative imagination especially in the production of aesthetic objects" What's that? The dictionary clearly states that art is the conscious use of skill and creative imagination, ESPECIALLY IN THE PRODUCTION OF AESTHETIC OBJECTS. Well, if we're so much into aesthetics, we must surely be into art, huh? Face it, Sushi, sigs are a form of art. If sigs are aesthetics, and aesthetics are major productions of art, then apparently sigs are forms of art. Correction; It so happens to have a graphics section. You see people showing wallpapers, too, don't you? I sure do. Just a day ago I saw a link/zelda wallpaper. Nice as can be, too. I'm sure the author of that wallpaper would call sigs art, as he would wallpapers. <!--QuoteBegin-Mr. Sushi Signatures aren't art, get over it. Art is expressing youself in such a way that the viewer feels the emotion and theme you are trying to express through the piece, it evokes a feeling, do sigs do that? No, so shut it. And if anyone wouldn't know real art if it smacked them in the face, it would be you and the other retards posting in this thread trying to convince people otherwise. Now, kindly go to school and learn something, your ignorance is getting annoying.[/quote] First of all, we aren't retards. I think you're the one who should go to school and learn something, like say... oh... the meaning of art? Schools have dictionaries. You, my friend, are too caught up in your own words, you don't even recognize the truth. You're so bent on proving your point, that you fail to pay attention to what we have to say. You think we care about a discussion a few people had? No, not really. What they discussed is a matter of opinion, but what we're saying is a fact. Don't believe me? Look in a dictionary. Or are you too ignorant and arrogant that you refuse to do so, and instead make yourself look like a fool. Oh, and by the way, you didn't prove your point either. You only made this topic go on longer than is needed. Now, please, can we stop arguing and get along? Sigs are just as much art as wallpapers; wallpapers are just as much art as sigs. And Choice, I love the site/forum. I joined and am planning to do quite a bit of posting. Expect to see my name on there
First of all, we aren't retards. I think you're the one who should go to school and learn something, like say... oh... the meaning of art? Schools have dictionaries. You, my friend, are too caught up in your own words, you don't even recognize the truth. You're so bent on proving your point, that you fail to pay attention to what we have to say. You think we care about a discussion a few people had? No, not really. What they discussed is a matter of opinion, but what we're saying is a fact. Don't believe me? Look in a dictionary. Or are you too ignorant and arrogant that you refuse to do so, and instead make yourself look like a fool. Oh, and by the way, you didn't prove your point either. You only made this topic go on longer than is needed. Now, please, can we stop arguing and get along? Sigs are just as much art as wallpapers; wallpapers are just as much art as sigs. And Choice, I love the site/forum. I joined and am planning to do quite a bit of posting. Expect to see my name on there [/b][/quote] Can a signature evoke feeling? Can it make you cry, wonder what the person was thinking when they stuck others people work into the rectangle? No, sigs are nothing more then aesthetics, they are nothing more then eye candy for the kiddies. Signatures take no skill AT ALL, face it, painting a master piece like the mona lisa takes skill, go to a museum, you might understand what actual art looks like. The one and only way a wallpaper can be considered art, is if the material thats placed in it is more then a pos game picture with some lame ass brushes placed in it. You wanna see artistic wallpapers, use the search button on DA, better yet, take a look at alyn's DA gallery, or wirestyles, im sure you people have come across his work, you all rip it enough. the conscious use of skill and creative imagination is what you need to look at, especially the "conscious use of skill" part. You wanna use disctionary.com, then know what your posting before you post it. You need conformation on that statement? Go to an art teacher and try and explain your case, they'll laugh in your face, mine found this to be histarical.
1st Thing : I now dont see you having any room to speak...may I ask when the last time YOU painted the Mona Lisa was?...and oh, ill ask my art teacher and heard of DA? Digital Applications or Digital Art....a course at college...DIGITAL ART. And oh, guess what the main program is. And id be surpirsed if youre smarter than the majpority of UK who deal in the course 2nd Thing : Im so **** sick of you making assumptions, your basing nearly ALL of GR...youre saying "You people" and then we rip work? Ha...I havent even seen anything from you come out thats worth while, and no we dont all rip work. A few minors do but you think people in your so called "real" art never rip? You are just so blind to see what you and we are saying. You wont take an opinion
Mr. Sushi, I clearly proved sigs are art. In one of your posts, you said we're so into aesthetics. Well, the dictionary states that art is the conscious use of... especially in the major production of aesthetics. You're going to start editing the dictionary now; taking out parts of definitions to state your point? We don't give a crap about what DA considers art. No skill? You can't possibly say that. Look at that. Art takes skill. Making sigs is are talent or ability. We must continually "train" or practice in order to become better.
