You're taking advantage of their naiveness . And they're just plain gullible. Joe is actually 24, responsible, has a job, is studying programming (even though he's technically a professional now), and a good man. I know plenty of people who have been in my exact situation, and neither were lying. Besides, he's a terrible liar :lol:. We both grew up with the belief that we should wait until marriage, and we still hold to that. Besides, Joe had his first kiss with me, and there's no doubting it was his first kiss :tongue: To be honest, there is no better man than Joe. I'd gladly die for him, and I know he would die for me. He's already sacrificed a lot to be with me and proven that he loves me. He sees another girl he's physically attracted to, whoopdeedoo, he looks away. Even if girls are inappropriately dressed, he doesn't ogle them. He doesn't look at them. He doesn't even watch TV if it has someone dressed like a whore. We've been dating for several years now and had no conflicts. I wouldn't give him up, I don't even know how I got such a good guy, and I know he wouldn't give me up. Face it Dem: we're from two completely different worlds
Incorrect, taking advantage of would be forcing them with their downfall. Giving them the choice in the matter is the difference. I don't really care about anything when it comes down to it, but it never hurts to get your dick wet from time to time (ie, my second most sexist avatar). A man doesn't need to look to get a peak. It is humans natural instinct to look, to admire, or to just simply respect others beauty. If a man couldn't look at other women while he was in a relationship you would have exactly 0 couples on this planet, pretty much guaranteed. Either way, he sounds like a puss to me. Maybe gay. You sure he doesn't like sausage? No, you haven't had sex. That would make an interesting wedding night, however... "so... yeah... hunny... I think we should stop having sex, you just aren't doing it for me... but maybe we can invite Mike?" I have *never* met a modern day couple who could honestly state they waited until marriage to have sex (unless they were married pre-18). Not a single member of my aunts family (and trust me, their are about as devout as one can realistically get - every time I spend time with them I honestly just want to choke them they are so initiating - their every breath, with the exception of my youngest cousin and my uncle, infuriates me) can honestly state they weren't sexually active before marriage. I *never* will hear it truthfully ever as well, especially not from you. Also, fucking weird that you, 20 years old, have been dating a 24 year old for 'several years'. Pedophile much? Not that I shun that kind of thing, I hook up with 17 year olds still and I'm 20. Can't help it their young and freshman college students (those ones I pretty much do take advantage of - but with your definition of the word, not mine).
Think what you like. You really don't know that many people who are serious about marriage and sex, so I can understand why you think this is impossible. However much you doubt mankind's ability to stay chaste, it is possible. Two out of three of my brothers have never intentionally looked at porn, one is fighting the temptation to look at it constantly (they won't even see Watchmen). None of my brothers have even dated a woman since they 1) have high standards and 2) are shy. My church friends have either never dated, or are already married. When you grow up being told the value of marriage and sex, you end up not sleeping around and even wanting to wait. You let yourself be held accountable by others and set limits with your partner until you're married. It's hard work, but makes it all the more precious. I also know plenty of men who are married and madly in love with their wives, but regret having slept around before. All the more reason to wait. However, I do understand that you and I were raised completely differently, so we carry different views on this. I'm just saying that even though you haven't seen it, doesn't mean it isn't true. Maybe less believable, but no less true. If you want, you can say we're not a modern couple, since we went through more of a courting process anyway. Heck, Arab cultures in particular can be pretty strict on this... just not for the guy <_< And Sock, I admire you more and more each day :wub:
I read the discussion you guys had, and what I liked about it is that neither of you tried to claim one belief was better. That's an impressive feat for the internet. Edit: lol, thanks <3
You and I were raised pretty similar after the time I spent through foster care actually, we just have different mindsets. I soaked in the information and then used my knowledge to think for myself and look into other options and thought for myself while you decided to sit there and soak up the information with blind faith. You choose to believe 1 thing entirely without even experiencing everything the world has to offer. In my opinion, that is stupid (ie making a decision before knowing all the options), but whatever, your life not mine. To put it into plainer text, you are like the person who will be asked a question on Millionaire and immediately know the answer before hearing the options. A, final answer, and in the end you wait and hope you get it right. I view life as reviewing my options and making a move on which one is the best option. Not stating my view is necessarily better, because everyone is their own person, but I am stating that by deciding upon an answer before reading the multiple choice... you're pretty much set up to fail. The same goes for relationships... why place all of your faith that 1 relationship will work before giving other relationships a chance? Sounds like a setup to fail to be entirely honest.
It's not that I didn't plan on giving other relationships a chance, it's more that I just lucked out and met the right guy the first time. I'm not going to give up the one man who has given so much for me just because I want to try out some other guys. If I did that, I'd be giving him up permanently; he'd find someone else. Just not worth it. He loves his family, but stayed behind when they moved to LA. This required he get a second job to pay for rent. He sacrifices little things all the time, takes care of me without my asking. Heck, every moment I'm thinking "I don't deserve such a great guy". Besides, being who I am, he's the only guy I've met that I've been compatible with Also, I do weigh my options. I sit there for hours considering my options, I've sat there for hours pondering why I'm Christian, and moving onto who God is, also thinking of if Joe is type of the guy I want to be with the rest of my life (answer was yes, obviously). I'm not blind, I've simply lived different circumstances than you, responded to them differently than you, thought different things than you, and come to a different conclusion than you, not all that uncommon. I've even had discussions with Wiccans and Muslims and tons of atheists (can you get any more liberal than the northwest without leaving the US?) about their beliefs, considering every option and asking myself why it does or does not work. I will admit: there are some things I'll never try. There are some things I haven't seriously considered. But that makes me no less open minded than the next person. At the very least, I can say I'm not a dabbler: I've gone all the way and actually decided on something. Makes me happy to believe something is absolute, even if you think it's wrong, even if it is wrong, it lets me know who I am and gives me purpose, a reason to be someone better. Let's just agree to disagree . At least I'm not some sleezy whore who OD'd on the street. I didn't have the best of friends in middle school, so it's not that unlikely...
He was an heroic to us all. I can respect that but damn...that is odd. Apparently they do. I have to agree with Dem here, there's not too many that do. I'd give an example but it's not a good one...and I don't like thinking of it. *Shudders* Fix't.
im breaking up the animosity with this pic: feast ur eyes. damn, i just noticed my back is sexy as fuhhh.
Mostly thinking of the case where the woman was gang raped and went to jail, while the guys got off scott free. Apparently it's pretty common for raped women to be jailed for adultery. For the most part, it's a big deal with the men too, but they don't actually seem to get in trouble. Not legally, I should say.
But that's cause the legal system in Middle Eastern countries sucks dick. There was a trail where a mentally retarded kid got blamed for the murder and theft of body parts from like 10 people which makes no sense. I don't want to get into the details of the trial and evidence but anyone with two braincells could realize it wasn't the kid. Anyway yea since the legal system doesn't work most people just take it upon themselves to find justice and criminals usually end up getting beaten to death or stuff. It works kind of fine tbh.
