Seperation

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  1. RikkuFox FTW

    RikkuFox FTW Well-Known Member

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    Apparently was right in the middle of history or science, I'll talk to my friend sometime this weekend and ask which one.
     
  2. Konekokaze

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    this is all crap in my opinion theres a place for eligieon and its not in politics. thats why i hate george bush.
     
  3. RikkuFox FTW

    RikkuFox FTW Well-Known Member

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    Huh?...
     
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    You know you're seriously wrong. I donot wanna debate with a dumb person like you who's caring about Mathemetics. Duh DEBATE dude DE-BATE! .. You don't like Islam and you like Muslims? Well if it was for me I would've insulted you in front of a million people for abusing my religion. Never CRITISIZE on a RELIGION. Mark those words, Apostle is right.

    I absolutely agree to what "beasta" said.
     
  5. -=DaRKSTaR=-

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    1 thing - I live in UK and a practicing Muslim - Well I have finished school and going University - While at school we had a subject called Religious Studies or Education - Within it we use to undergo EVERY SINGLE RELIGION , well the main ones of Sikhism, Islam, blockedistianity, Judaism, Buddhism etc

    Well whilst in the classroom, whatever religion we were on we use to bring their Holy Book either the Bible, The Quran, The Torah or the GGSahib - And whoever knew how to read the Holy Books they would read it - Obviously when it was my religion I volunteered to read it as with any other Holy Book

    The POINT of this is? To make everyone understand what each religion is and what happens within it - Eliminates Racism and stupid petty arguements considering religion

    ANY info on what religion is the teacher, student and the principle was following? THe time of day...the classroom etc

    People believe say Politics as their religion saying o this is right o this is true and forget religion if they are believing in one

    In the HolyQuran it states ' Everyone should be cared for Equally - Both Man and Woman ' But hardly anyone cares about equality and start being biased,sexist and also racist

    Meh..Werent you the one that extended this religious debate about a boy who complained? Yourself - Saying you basically hate every single opinion and religion except your own opinion but like the people - Bizarre

    Yes it looks like that - Im not saying its always wrong but you should consider other beliefs in consideration - You cannot saay the BIble is perfect, which it isnt - Even blockedistians are saying it isnt

    From my perspective ... that boy seems like the only backup you got saying that man never got fired was racist - How is that racist.

    A person who hasnt read the Alphabet [arabic] wont never be able to read the Quran unless it was in English - If the boy was a Muslim then ... its stupid but if it was a blockedistian for example then he wouldnt have been able to read it

    Besides the teacher was arguing a point you say? Why was the boy crying he was racist? Thats not possible - Getting a clarification from a Holy Book is not racist but just debating

    For a debate theres a true side and a false side - Imaginary sides - Doesnt have to be spot on true or false - A debate needs FACTS to be proven - What you say needs to be proven - A Opinion in other hand - You can say what you like forever , which is not true cant be proven BEcause its your opinion from the mind - What you think is right/wrong .. you cannot back that up really

    Exactly - ALso what i said previously

    and if you call me an ass through PM Or -rep [which i dont care about] then I will take action for entering an opinion and you judging me - A warning

    Post regarding my post and your arguement - I wish to stop the whole kid teacher charade now

    Think about what you post now ... ALso when u said Kid=Goat - Werent you a kid i mean goat sometime then?

    - DarkStar
     
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    Darkstar, explained it all :) .
     
  7. .Celestial

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    @DarkStar- So your saying that if you had to read the Bible for the class you would? Now I'm not completely 100% sure on this, but don't all Muslims believe the Bible is completely contradictory based on what the Quaran says..?

    And about your class... How in the hell can that pertain to whats happening with what happened in this school? For after all your class it is allowed because thats what you are studying. If I'm in Science class and someone pulls out a book containing religious text I wouldn't per say agree with it.

    And it is true... For most of these cases against religion only started when a person of the Muslim religion had a problem with it. Before Islamic people came to America in mass, there was no problem with the words "In god we trust", or having the 10 commandments in the meusem.
     
  8. RikkuFox FTW

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    This isn't hard to understand. I dilike the religion, not the people. I don't dislike people only because of their religion. If I dislike a muslim, it's for more of a reason then because of their religion. Obviously if I am a blockedistian, I'm going to dislike other religions, as I believe them false.
     
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    Just because you believe it as false simply means you disagree it doesnt mean you have to dislike the religion thats a very disrespectful way to say it because its baiscly sayin is you dislike everthing a muslim stands.
     
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    What if I do? I'm a kristian. From the time Islamic muslims are born they are taught that America is an evil place. And they are also taught the Kristians are the worst of them.

    WTF!!!! [c][h][r][t] is blocked but alah isn't? WTF!!!
     
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    NO PROOF AT ALL TO SUPPORT THAT SENTENCE you have just ssaid - That statement is truly utterly false - Are you stupid? Well sorry I had to say that to you

    Who said Islamic muslims are taught that...? Just you - An assumption made on your behalf with no proof whatsoever

    I have never been taught that US is a Evil place why would I believe that for? I have no grudge against anyone nor any religion - I speak for many when I say that

    I would like to meet the world if I had a chance - Same with different BG people - I dont care what religion a person is .. and in fact I probably got more different BG friends than you probably have because you said that - You name it ... Khristians, Sikhs, Atheist, Buddhism, White, black, yellow, brown whatever the colour

    Im probably the only few that disregards race and colour and gets along with anyone i meet

    'God created 1 world and Man separated it with their own selfish needs' - A saying i heard

    I want to make one thing clear ...

    Terrorists - Are not bound by Islam - It is forbidden to underttake SUICIDE stated clearly in The Quran - As you here o terrorists blew this up and are Islamic militants - They are NOT Muslims - They are traitors to that Religion

    The wording people use is not valid - The terminiology they use as in Islamic terrorists are just terrorists and in my view they should be punished

    However - Well it turns out to be that all Muslims are suffering because of this consequence of what happened when the people who committed suicide are not Muslims - You get me Good

    Btw that statement was out of bounds ... I can say that from the time you were born you were taught that 'Hate every race except your own'?

    Think before you speak dude - Dam I hate racists so much ... boils my blood to the top

    Btw u spelt Allah wrong

    - DarkStar
     
  12. Moch+

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    I read the majority of the posts but alot of them were whiney and annoying so here's my two cents on the situation as a whole:

    Rikku, would you have a problem if this teacher whipped out the bible? Alot of people wouldn't, most people wouldn't even think twice about it.

    It seems as though people think religion doesn't belong in school when it's not their own religion, because it's something foreign and new or because they're closed minded and stereotypical. That's probably the number 1 reason why people don't want religion in school. The wrong reasons why religion shouldn't be taught in school.

    A good reason for not having religion in school is the fact that the torah, bible, and koran are essentially storie written down for centuries. These stories provide little to no evidence of truth besides the supposed existence of god. You go to school to gain knowledge of proven accounts that are well documented (History), learn ideas based on evidence humans have found in our own biology (Science), you gain the knowledge to use numbers to solve the riddles of shapes and sizes and numbers (Math), and you learn to speak fluently and skillfully (English).

    Also when scanning through the posts I saw something about creationism and evolution, yeah um we have fossils, dna, proof of body parts that humans no long need and EVOLVED to get rid of them (the tail bone), we've even proved that spontaneous generation can happen and the only proof of creationism is a book.


    Keep religion out of my classroom, if you want to learn it they have these places called Synagouges, Churches, and Mosks (spelling?) try going to one of those places.
     
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    How did we get sooo Off Topic?
     
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    Because of posts like yours, my reply was on topic with the seperation of church and state. Reply to it if you want.
     
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    If you havent read this topic, for a complete summary and all answers to this topic, read Darkstars 2 posts. I agree 100% with everything he said.
     

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