WOW! Now that is one open family. Now her mother is so proud of her 17 year old daughter getting pregnant at such a young age, gladly at least she knows who her father is and perhaps that is what made Palin accept her daughter a pregnant girlfriend of a guy who is as young as her daughter herself and is possibly irresponsible. But anyway, it won't be effecting anything in relation to the politics but I would say she would be one bad-ass VP and I am totally not in favor of the republicans winning the elections anyway, Obama FTW as Democracy rocks! :->
Dem's pretty much said most of my arguments, though; no point in being redundant. Just for the record, Dem, the grammar argument is a losing one. Tried it once upon a time. Yes, democracy is good. Too bad we're a republic. If you meant "democrats rock," voting along party lines is stupid.
Your idol, Bill Clinton, is certainly a good example of liberal leadership. I doubt that you are aware of this, as most liberals can't read much more than comic books, but do you remember that Clinton was impeached for perjury? Yes, he is a fine example of liberal parenthood-wonder how Chelsea felt when dear dad lied on t.v. to the whole nation, "I didn't have sex with that woman"-remember how the clinton's were fined tens of thousands of dollars for falsifying Hillary's health reform package? yOU TRUST HIM? The problem the liberals have, is they will believe anything the other liberals tell them-they don't have the initiative to check voting records themselves, they can only parrot what they hear from each other. And the liberal politicians know this, they are counting on your ignorance and sheeplike qualities to get you to do their bidding. As far as your "religious" upbringing, you don't go into detail. but a God never forced anyone to do anything, and he never will. As you say, you found something that fits you-I suppose that makes it right. Hitler was comfortable with Nazism, Stalin with Communism, and on and on-but I suppose you might say they were okay, or have you heard of the Holocost? You have such faith in psychology-did you realize that psychology is the only branch of "medicine" that is not based on any fact whatsoever? Did you know Freud, one of the founders of modern psychology was a coke addict, and that he was fairly well shunned by the scientific community at the close of his life? And, science? Bet you would have been a backer of those scientists who declared the world to be the center of the universe? Hey, but it was science, yes. You mock religion, yet you practice one of the most hateful of religions, the religion of liberalism. Yeah, it's a religion. You know the funny part? If the liberals ever attain the kind of power they want in this country(and they might, because of sheeple like you), you guys will be the first ones they silence. Get some history books, bub-this is nothing new. It happened in Europe. Obamanation at best is a scam-tell me one thing he ever accomplished, one bill he introduced, anything at all he has ever done!!! But, at worst, Obama has an agenda of his own, and it mayl well be a Muslim based agenda-that might not bother you now, but it will, it will. The Muslims are deadly serious about their religion, and guess what, pinhead, their religion doesn't include you! Don't guess you've paid any attention to the Koran, have you. Obama speaks fluent arabic, was schooled in a Muslim school, and it's pretty obvious, he don't like whitey! See, the problem isn't that you don't know, the problem is you don't know that you don't know. One other observation that struck me when you said you found a 'religion' that fit you-the Bible says that in the last days, that man will do what is right in his own eyes. You better hope your neighbor doesn't think what's right is getting rid of libs! Oh, and by the way dementia, you don't have much room to comment on grammar-again, you don't know that you don't know. Do you need your paper graded?
I... really hate how it's Christian doctrine to say "premarital sex is bad." I truly do have my own thoughts on religion and I really don't think that God (if there is one) is going to send me to hell just because, "goddamnit that girl was so hot guys, I totally banged her!" (not intended to offend, it's just a line I'm sure many guys have said... I don't mean exactly, but any iteration of). I recently convinced my super-christian friend that it's OK for him to have sex before marriage because if any God says "don't have fun, do not enjoy life, the gift I gave you," then doesn't that make him more malevolent than benevolent? To quote Stephen King "I believe in God, too. I just don't think he's the ------ you make him out to be" -The Mist. We are taught that abstinence is key and it's hinted that we shouldn't really be having sex until we're secure, but nobody wants to deprive themselves of pleasure, so we do it anyways. It's fun. And I've told girls who weren't on the pill to really talk to their parents about it and try to get on the pill. It's like the miracle pill for girls, it eases PMS (like the cramps and stuff), it helps their skin and it keeps them from creating idiot babies. It's great, parents should be getting their kids on it. Here's sort of a paraphrase of what my parents said to me: "We've talked to you about sex, about everything that can happen and we know you're at that age. We just want you to be safe and we know we can't stop you from doing anything like that now, so please, we beg you, if you do have sex, just be safe." I broke the awkward tension by saying something along the lines of "... yeah kay. So what's for dinner?" Maybe I like to consider myself a "safe-sexer" but I feel strongly that there's no point in stopping it. If parents do proper education when their kids are younger, I think they can keep them from making poor decisions. Everyone matures differently and I feel that even though I'm underaged, I've made the right decisions for myself when it's come to sex. There are others however, who really shouldn't be because as I said earlier; they're just stupid.
It's God's gift to use, to show that you love someone(It is NOT love, though), not something to do because it's fun. And, again, statistics show many relationships go down hill after premarital sex. Here's a little reading you could do, if you like. http://www.leaderu.com/everystudent/sex/ar...es/whywait.html As for depriving opurselves of pleasure, there are a lot of people that derive pleasure from killing women during sex. Because God says that's wrong, does it mean he's malevolent? There are a lot of things we can derive pleasure from. That' doesn't mean it's ok to go out and do all of them. Some people derive pleasure from stealing, killing, raping, and hurting in general. I'm not saying premarital sex is as bad as things, and I'm not saying it isn't. I'm just making a statement. Not everything that makes us "feel" good, is good.
And before you brand me a god-hating immoral secularist liberal, I think both candidates suck. I'm an independent.
everything is opinionated, but as i stated before Palin doesn't have a good leadership skill, if she did she would have had her daughter in check and she would not have informed others in her office/press that she was pregnant, so she would not be embarrassed by her daughter. As we all know now, it didn;t work too good. *Side note please see spam section for some shourisha goodies
Anyone who says "you liberals" doesn't know what he or she is talking about. 1) OBAMA IS CHRISTIAN. Simple as that. 2) You're believing the FoxNews, Townhall.com stereotype of the "liberal." If you want to know what a real liberal is, read Garrison Keillor's "Homegrown Democrat." Anyone who hates anyone because of his or her political beliefs (as you appear to hate liberals) doesn't understand why we even have a government with a basically bipartisan system.
Sly fox! when u assume, u make an as.s out of u and me but most of it you b/c your beliefs are yours and you try to justify them by bringing in releigion and all other information that has nothing to do with the topic title.
First of all, I really don't want to click that link. Christian-influenced works have always spun the word of God in their favour to get their way. Hardcore Christians give Christianity a bad name. Next... You see, you're loaded with logical fallacies. I think I need to make an analogy here: "Pancakes are ------ing delicious. I love them, I am so happy eating them. They are so amazing. WOWZERS. ... But God says that people can get pleasure from murder and raping people. So that makes them happy, so eating pancakes is bad." Did you just say "wtf?" Good. Because that's what I say when I hear "premarital sex is fun, but murder is fun too, so don't do either." You can't relate sex to murder. Maybe murder and rape, but not murder and sex. You've been indoctrinated into believing that "premarital sex r b badz, yo." It's not the sex that could be bad, but the results can be bad such as... an STI or an unwanted pregnancy. The pregnancy is only really bad if the kid is going to be brought up with a single parent (which has sometimes worked out fine anyways, but sometimes it doesn't), in an orphanage (which has also turned out OK sometimes) and anything else that can jeopardize the child's upbringing. Am I trying to bring down your beliefs, your religion and your world? No. I do really think you're wrong about "love" and the "expression" of it through sex. I could go on for days about why the Christian views on premarital sex is just ass-backwards. I'm going to make this next part larger because I'm tired of the discussion of religion and this topic because the way it's handled is horrendous. I have my own religion, as I have found God my own way. Not the typical Christian "I gots hurts ors dids somethings bads ands nows Is hases foundeds tehs God-guy-dude. And I found the Jesus, too." I found God through frustration. It was merely me asking "What?" and "Why?" simultaneously to create my own, open-sourced religion. I do not talk about it unless specifically asked for. It's not a subject I like because religion and the discussion of is, in my opinion, the bane of society and everything. Religion is fine, but when you start to talk about it, you bring out the ------ and ignorant son of a skank-hoe-teen-pregnancy-dip---- in everyone. Nobody understands it and anyone who thinks they understand it only misunderstand it. Do not bring religion into a sex argument, especially involving abstract concepts such as "love." Do not claim the word of God has been spoken for completely. If anyone wants to know more about my views, you can PM me, as I am done with this topic and what's it degenerated to. I worry I started the downhill spiral, as I usually do. =( "Stop, Ezekial! Don't put any more religion in my delicious tasty-cakes!"
Wow. So you listen about like a stump listens. First, that link isn't just Christian information. It's statistics, and science, and other such things. If you want to speak, then you must listen. Second, I said, specifically, that I wasn't claiming premarital sex was as bad as murder. I said that. I simply left out the word "those", an easy typo. You decided to throw words in my mouth(isn't that what someone was claiming that I was doing?). I never said all things that bring pleasure are evil. But, the fact of the matter is, we are not supposed to have premarital sex, whether you belive in God, or not. READ THE LINK! Our bodies take it badly(STDs), our relationships take it badly(breakups), our psyches can take it badly, and about a dozen other things. Wow, I was right, you guys really can't read anything more than comic books! Now, to Ferret. First, Dementia was claiming Clinton as one of the greatest presidents of the last century. I was simply stating some nice facts that pretty much destroy that idea. You wanna talk about the corruption of government, a lack of parenting? Complain about the king himself, Clinton. And no, the bible speaks of different "degrees" of sin. Second, I have never said Mccain would be a good president. Simply better than Obama. And, BTW, what does this have to do with liberals and their sheeplike qualities? No, I don't follow some set of Republican information. Guess what, bucko, Fox news is called Fair and Balanced for a reason. Ever watch Hannity and Colms? Of course you down't, but anyway, Sean Hannity is a republican, and Alan Colmes is a democrat. This show gives views on both sides of the line. Third, whether or not the afterlife is true, is up to the person that looks at it. But, it seams odd, that you speak of God "deluding" people into believing in an afterlife. If the afterlife is a delusion, then isn't Hell the same? Or perhaps you're somewhat afraid of hell? That many died thanks to Christianity, eh? Wanna give some examples? As I've stated before, the Crusades and the Inquisition were no more acts backed by God than if I went to your house and shot you, saying the Bible told me to. The Bible, in no way, shape or form, promotes the actions of the Catholic church during those times. Wake up, and try actually reading the whole book. Fourth, where in the world are you getting that info? You can't simply state that a bunch of people got together and decided what would be in the book, because there's no proof of it anywhere. Your statement is no more true than what Christians believe---Each book of the bible was written by a different man, years and years apart, and each man divinely inspired. Oh, and the church wasn't alone, the scientists thought the same way for quite some time. And yet, liberals are the first to attack those that see things differently. After all, it's the liberals that banned Christianity from schools. And I have yet to see the Christians ban ANY religion from the schools. Christian churches do not preach rascism, period. Of course he claims to be a Christian, he knows the general public wouldn't want a muslim president. If he doesn't care, and wants everyone to know his islamic childhood, why did he lie at first about being raised in an islamic household, taught in an islamic school? Obviously, he's hiding something, otherwise, wouldn't he have been straight up in the first place? Endorsements isn't quite the same as sitting in the pews, now is it? It doesn't mean that you've listened to the person for 20 years. It doesn't mean you agree with what they say. And, as far as radical preachers go, who? The guy that does the 700 club? Hopw can you compare him with Obama's pastor? You're right, an arabic speaker would be handy, and if that were the only thing Obama had from the arabs, it would be fine. But, it kinda sounds strange, when you tie that fact in with his islamic childhood. And so far, none of you have stated a single fact to prove me "wrong". So, I'm kinda doubting I could go down a losing street, at this point. As usual, you just state the usual liberal rhetoric, and wait for the other person give up. It's kinda like the philabuster(sp?). So, I get my morals from the Bible. Where do you get yours from?
So after your last few posts I am 100% entirely positive you are no older than 16, and you are a republican christian, and due to your pro-gun nature likely a hick (I was having trouble figuring out whether you were one of the republicans that decided to live in a wealthy population, or one of those lazy republicans who booze, shoot guns, and expect 'god' to bring them all the things they need). See? I can stereotype too. You're a child, and your opinion is extremely one sided and illogical. I could summarize your posts by stating, 'what I *think* is correct, and anything other than what I *think* fails'. Have a good day sir. Also, for being such a profound republican christian you have greatly gone against many morals and commandments of the faith in your posts on an online forum, I recommend changing your attitude to practice what you preach, because at the moment you just look like an unintelligent hypocrite.
Wowwww, that's all you've got? Thing is, between our two stereotypes, my stereotype for you is the only one making you angry, I pretty much know what I am and what I'm not, and I'm not in the least bit angry over yours. Trust me, one or two insults isn't much compared to attacking a woman, because of a stupid mistake her child made.
