Next Middle Eastern War?

Obviously you dont know ---- about terrorism other than the ---- you are fed from the media, ok.
Al-Qaeda's goal is terrorizing civilians and murdering them and establish an extremist Islamic nation. Now that is terrorism.

Hamas and Hezbollah on the other hand are defending their homeland thats why they pick up the rockets and guns and use them against Israel which they deserve more than that, If you see the pictures of the murdered children and families of Palestine you will know what Iam talking about.

 

if us ever gets into a war, its korea next

 

I agree whole-heartedly. Killing innocents definately is "defending your homeland." I'm not "fed by the media." The media portrays Israel as evil, and Hamas TERRORISTS as "just defending themselves." Against what? Where is this alleged massacre by Israel. Get some ----ing facts, because from the Israelis I've talked to, it's perfectly calm. They don't go across the border, slice a few kids' throats, and claim that's "anti-terrorism." Like it or not, when you attack INNOCENT CIVILIANS DIRECTLY (IE, SHELLING ISRAELI TOWNS), that is TERRORISM, as defined by INTERNATIONAL LAW. I haven't seen these pictures, but I'm sure they exist. They've taken all sorts of pictures of the innocents bombed in Palestine and Lebanon lately. It's been the same thing, over and over. Newsflash: when you support TERRORISTS, hide TERRORISTS in your homes, chances are good that you will be bombed. It's a risk they take when there's a large explosive device going through their roof.

Why does Israel deserve "much more?" They deserve much more because they're occupying land that has been traditionally Jewish for thousands upon thousands of years? Judea? That ring a bell? It hasn't been Arab land; they came later on with the invading Muslims under Saladin and the like. Arabs didn't leave the Arabian peninsula in large numbers until the Crusades period. After that, you have the balls to say that it's "Arab land?" YOU are the one fed by the media.

 

i wish the world was a peacefull place.....

 

And just as we speak, Katyushas are hitting Haifa. Yeah, really defending their homelands...

 

There' s a lot of pretty interesting topics floating around so I decided to see what I could explain in my opinion and analysis (which is somewhat vast, I do Model UN sometimes):

United States and Terrorism: United States acts as one of five vetos (USA, UK, France, China, and Russia) in the world of counter-terrorism. This is very big due to their power roles in the Security Council and Ad Hoc on Terrorism committees at the United Nations. The reason why the US is getting involved with all might be for the gain of oil, but it also ties that all these nations share a common enemy: extremist and rebel groups like Al-Queda and the Taliban. This poses a big problem financially because these nations used to be power players in a group of countries called OPEC, which monitored trade of oil. The problem is that these groups - like Hezbollah (Lebanon) and Hamas (Palestinian State) - is that they are using the government as a target to take control of the nation' s decisions with killing and so on. This could damage major consumers like the veto nations, so they stress for CT in these countries to stop control of the oil market as well as to stop the Islam-oriented terrorism from esscalating further into their territory (IE: Muslim bombings in UK and US, Islamic-Chechnian militants in Russia, etc).

Issue involving Iran: Iran is not an entirely extremist state. While it is under theocratic law, it wasnt always so. The Ayatollah did not reach power until an estimate 20 years ago during the Iranian Revolution. It was then that they started immigrating 'refugee' students into the US' top universities to study several fields, mainly nuclear physics. They then were invited back to begin research in the nuclear field, particularly on things like reactors and enrichment tanks. This problem? This would mean they would be able to take their natural uranium deposits (a lot of ME nations have it) and enriching it to the right level for weaponization. This goes hand in hand with the Ayatollah' s regime against capitalism and could grow to the point of a second Cold War. This is both a stupid and sensitive issue. The US is threatened cause of Iran' s views towards the US government. Russia took Iran' s word that they were only making it for energy purposes, and offered to give them enriched uranium at the level for energy. They declined, and now are in trouble with both the UN Sec. Council and the IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency).

Israel vs. Palestine: One of the most heated issues. Israel was given land by the UK following the collaspe of the Ottoman empire to accomidate oppressed Jews. Palestinians were pissed because this took their homes and land from them, which led to attacks by rebel groups. After tons of battles, several heated talks with the UN, and two kick-ass prime ministers, we stand at this: Israel has obtained Golan heights from Lebanon, has given back the Gaza Strip/West Bank to the people of Palestine, and is currently on a 24/7/365 basis of CT. One of the biggest concerns is that nuclear war could occur, considering that Israel has a sight known as Dimona, where mining and compounding of uranium took place. Because of the NPT, there is no record of mass production of WMDs, but Israel still holds a powerful air and land force (considering it has the strength to defend against Egypt, Lebanon, and Palestine). Fortunately, Jerusalem is labeled a green zone and safe area by the UN, but the borders still have problems. The US has funded CT in Israel (go to first bullet statement for explanation of importance) and the UN has placed several peacekeeping ordinances to keep everything in line, which is crap considering that important things like the Quartet Roadmap isnt working at all. In the end, the clearly is no simple solution to this, and the outbreaks of sudden war among the two over a single soldier is rather dramatic but expected.

 

There' s a lot of pretty interesting topics floating around so I decided to see what I could explain in my opinion and analysis (which is somewhat vast, I do Model UN sometimes):

United States and Terrorism: United States acts as one of five vetos (USA, UK, France, China, and Russia) in the world of counter-terrorism. This is very big due to their power roles in the Security Council and Ad Hoc on Terrorism committees at the United Nations. The reason why the US is getting involved with all might be for the gain of oil, but it also ties that all these nations share a common enemy: extremist and rebel groups like Al-Queda and the Taliban. This poses a big problem financially because these nations used to be power players in a group of countries called OPEC, which monitored trade of oil. The problem is that these groups - like Hezbollah (Lebanon) and Hamas (Palestinian State) - is that they are using the government as a target to take control of the nation' s decisions with killing and so on. This could damage major consumers like the veto nations, so they stress for CT in these countries to stop control of the oil market as well as to stop the Islam-oriented terrorism from esscalating further into their territory (IE: Muslim bombings in UK and US, Islamic-Chechnian militants in Russia, etc).

Issue involving Iran: Iran is not an entirely extremist state. While it is under theocratic law, it wasnt always so. The Ayatollah did not reach power until an estimate 20 years ago during the Iranian Revolution. It was then that they started immigrating 'refugee' students into the US' top universities to study several fields, mainly nuclear physics. They then were invited back to begin research in the nuclear field, particularly on things like reactors and enrichment tanks. This problem? This would mean they would be able to take their natural uranium deposits (a lot of ME nations have it) and enriching it to the right level for weaponization. This goes hand in hand with the Ayatollah' s regime against capitalism and could grow to the point of a second Cold War. This is both a stupid and sensitive issue. The US is threatened cause of Iran' s views towards the US government. Russia took Iran' s word that they were only making it for energy purposes, and offered to give them enriched uranium at the level for energy. They declined, and now are in trouble with both the UN Sec. Council and the IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency).

Israel vs. Palestine: One of the most heated issues. Israel was given land by the UK following the collaspe of the Ottoman empire to accomidate oppressed Jews. Palestinians were pissed because this took their homes and land from them, which led to attacks by rebel groups. After tons of battles, several heated talks with the UN, and two kick-ass prime ministers, we stand at this: Israel has obtained Golan heights from Lebanon, has given back the Gaza Strip/West Bank to the people of Palestine, and is currently on a 24/7/365 basis of CT. One of the biggest concerns is that nuclear war could occur, considering that Israel has a sight known as Dimona, where mining and compounding of uranium took place. Because of the NPT, there is no record of mass production of WMDs, but Israel still holds a powerful air and land force (considering it has the strength to defend against Egypt, Lebanon, and Palestine). Fortunately, Jerusalem is labeled a green zone and safe area by the UN, but the borders still have problems. The US has funded CT in Israel (go to first bullet statement for explanation of importance) and the UN has placed several peacekeeping ordinances to keep everything in line, which is crap considering that important things like the Quartet Roadmap isnt working at all. In the end, the clearly is no simple solution to this, and the outbreaks of sudden war among the two over a single soldier is rather dramatic but expected.

 

Ofcourse you will be told that by an Israeli, duh! they dont live on the other side where all hell is.
If everyone who killes a civilian is a terrorist, then all criminals that are in normal prisons who committed murder are terrorists, thats by your retarded definition of terrorism!

Judea? wtf is that ?!
Most of the middle east speaks arabic but that doesnt make them arabs, when muslims conquered Palestine they didnt drive the people off their lands, just gradually by time alot of christians and jews that lived their converted to islam and learned Arabic , thats what happend in all islamic conquers arabs who are from the arabian peninsula very small amounts of them migrated to the other countries that were conquered.
SO the original people of plastine remained there till our modern times.

Now get YOUR ----ing facts straight.

And btw I live in the middle east.

 

Ofcourse you will be told that by an Israeli, duh! they dont live on the other side where all hell is.
If everyone who killes a civilian is a terrorist, then all criminals that are in normal prisons who committed murder are terrorists, thats by your retarded definition of terrorism!

Judea? wtf is that ?!
Most of the middle east speaks arabic but that doesnt make them arabs, when muslims conquered Palestine they didnt drive the people off their lands, just gradually by time alot of christians and jews that lived their converted to islam and learned Arabic , thats what happend in all islamic conquers arabs who are from the arabian peninsula very small amounts of them migrated to the other countries that were conquered.
SO the original people of plastine remained there till our modern times.

Now get YOUR ----ing facts straight.

And btw I live in the middle east.

 

Hopefully Syria stays out of this and lebanon just keeps it's cool. I highly doubt Iran will get involved.

 

Hopefully Syria stays out of this and lebanon just keeps it's cool. I highly doubt Iran will get involved.

 

Yo dude, seriously what is wrong with you? Israel is making war and war is never good! Come on :huh: !

 

Yo dude, seriously what is wrong with you? Israel is making war and war is never good! Come on :huh: !

 

Yes, living less than 1KM from the border and having a rocket land within 100 meters of his home is definately "not there." Judea: look it up in the history book. Do they have those over there, anti-semite boy? I highly doubt it, seeing as you don't even know what Judea is/was. Traditionally, ARABS are from the ARABIAN peninsula. Why is land hundreds of kilometers away now "Arab land?" What the ---- is "plastine?"

I assumed you had common sense. You apparently do not, so I'll break it down for you. I had assumed (wrongly) that you knew that Hamas/Hezbollah had a political goal behind their killings. Unfortunately, that was not understood by you. When I refer to their terrorism, from here on out, understand that it's politically motivated. Now, here's a definition of "terrorism:"

ter·ror·ism (tĕr'ə-rĭz'əm) pronunciation
n.

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people, usually innocent civilians, or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

That was taken from an online dictionary. That's also my definiton of terrorism.

Now, here's the stated goal of Hamas:

Now, they want the destruction of a soveriegn state. They want to "wipe off the map" a state that has the support of the international community. If it didn't have that support (not just the US, anti-semite boy. UK, France, Italy, Belgium, The Netherlands, and a whole slew of other European countries supported their statehood back in the 40s.), it would not be a country today. However, I'm going to put that aside.

Hamas wants Israel out of "Muslim" homelands. Let's use some common sense. The prophet Mohammed supposedly came around 600 AD, correct? The Koran was given to Mohammed and written, with that the Islamic faith was born, correct? Enter Judaism. Judaism has been around for thousands of years prior to that. Christianity was formed about 400 years prior. Judaism, however, is the oldest of the three. Can you agree on that? I can, and so can anyone with a history textbook. Now, a religion founded thousands of years after Judaism has the balls to claim that its "homeland" is the area where Judaism has traditionally sat for thousands of years prior to that? I guess simple math is not taught in Palestine.

Now, anti-semite boy, your turn: what's your definition of "terrorist?" Also, give me solid proof that Israel has killed 22,000 innocent civilians. Give me solid proof that Israel is bombing children. Give me solid proof that Israel has done anything since 1949 that has not been in defense of itself. Give me solid proof that Israelis are bombing innocent civilians at will. You've claimed all of these. Where's your proof?

I'm waiting. Don't make any more claims without some good, solid proof. I'm fighting the urge to laugh my ass off at you right now, but in good faith I will not.

 

Yes, living less than 1KM from the border and having a rocket land within 100 meters of his home is definately "not there." Judea: look it up in the history book. Do they have those over there, anti-semite boy? I highly doubt it, seeing as you don't even know what Judea is/was. Traditionally, ARABS are from the ARABIAN peninsula. Why is land hundreds of kilometers away now "Arab land?" What the ---- is "plastine?"

I assumed you had common sense. You apparently do not, so I'll break it down for you. I had assumed (wrongly) that you knew that Hamas/Hezbollah had a political goal behind their killings. Unfortunately, that was not understood by you. When I refer to their terrorism, from here on out, understand that it's politically motivated. Now, here's a definition of "terrorism:"

ter·ror·ism (tĕr'ə-rĭz'əm) pronunciation
n.

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people, usually innocent civilians, or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

That was taken from an online dictionary. That's also my definiton of terrorism.

Now, here's the stated goal of Hamas:

Now, they want the destruction of a soveriegn state. They want to "wipe off the map" a state that has the support of the international community. If it didn't have that support (not just the US, anti-semite boy. UK, France, Italy, Belgium, The Netherlands, and a whole slew of other European countries supported their statehood back in the 40s.), it would not be a country today. However, I'm going to put that aside.

Hamas wants Israel out of "Muslim" homelands. Let's use some common sense. The prophet Mohammed supposedly came around 600 AD, correct? The Koran was given to Mohammed and written, with that the Islamic faith was born, correct? Enter Judaism. Judaism has been around for thousands of years prior to that. Christianity was formed about 400 years prior. Judaism, however, is the oldest of the three. Can you agree on that? I can, and so can anyone with a history textbook. Now, a religion founded thousands of years after Judaism has the balls to claim that its "homeland" is the area where Judaism has traditionally sat for thousands of years prior to that? I guess simple math is not taught in Palestine.

Now, anti-semite boy, your turn: what's your definition of "terrorist?" Also, give me solid proof that Israel has killed 22,000 innocent civilians. Give me solid proof that Israel is bombing children. Give me solid proof that Israel has done anything since 1949 that has not been in defense of itself. Give me solid proof that Israelis are bombing innocent civilians at will. You've claimed all of these. Where's your proof?

I'm waiting. Don't make any more claims without some good, solid proof. I'm fighting the urge to laugh my ass off at you right now, but in good faith I will not.