Next Middle Eastern War?

You have not given ONE credible source to this. As far as I know, you're just an Israel hater. I highly doubt you're Palestinian, seeing as you're sporting an Iraqi flag. Where are these reports? Nowhere. Not one CREDIBLE news agency has them. So, until you show one, you're just a -----stirrer.

Osama Bin Laden is a terrorist, just as Hamas (you know, the ones in ski masks with the AKs kidnapping people and blowing up busses) is a terrorist organization. Al Qaeda is on the list of terrorist groups, just as Hamas and Hezbollah are. Don't give me that bull----. If they weren't terroists, why are they blowing up busses, shooting rockets at civilians, and generally being dickheads? I have not seen ONE article ANYWHERE saying that Israel is bombing innocents. They don't as a matter of policy. That's what seperates them from terrorists and their supporters just like you; they pretend to be civilized. They realize that there are limits. If your little Hamas freedom fighters want freedom, stop blowing up busses and stop targeting civilians and stop kidnapping people. Believe it or not, Israel hasn't touched Gaza or the West Bank since 2000. The only time they even think about going into these areas is when these TERRORISTS decide it's fun to target civilians and terrorize the population.

 

Ask your self, Who decides the list of terroirst?? America. Who does America Support?? Isreali. America plays with that terroirst list so they can use it for political reasons, America is half way to putting Chavez on that list even thought he just express opnions that is contray to Americas, and he is against america's imperalism. So that list is nuthing, no valid opinons should come off of that. WOW!!!!!!! Isreali killed 22k refugees in the 1980 and that is a known fact so yes Isreal has killed innocent civilans, you get your facts startight buddy. ISREALI LAUNCH ATTACK EVERY NIGHT!!!!!! Since the 1950s there has been attacks on Palestine, sure there was some peace periods but they were always disrupte by Isreali, and since 2000 there have been alot of attacks and air strikes. You have no clue what you are talking about lol

 

Oh no you didn't. Chavez? That's laughable. He's building up his military. That's fine. I'm all for it. When he starts calling for the destruction of the US, associating with Cuba, and generally stirring ----, then the US starts on him. How is America "imerialistic?" In our constitution and foriegn policy since the 1700s, we have been so AGAINST imperialism, that to even say that we're imperialistic is laughable. We effectively blocked the European powers from colonizing anything in the Americas in the 1800s.

22K refugees? Are you ----ing stupid? Damn dude, whatever you're smoking, give me some. YOU are CLUELESS. YOU ARE A BRAINWASHED, IGNORANT, ANTI-SEMETIC MORON. Where does it say this? Who says this? Sources, buddy. Where did you get 22K? I've heard of an Israeli army unit shooting into a refugee camp in 1980. That killed about a hundred innocents. The leader of that unit was executed. Where is this "attack every night?" The only attacks they launch are against threats to themselves (IE your little buddies shooting Kayutsha rockets at them). Israel has only bombed people that are shooting rockets into their civilian population, who are TERRORISTS. And that international list is just that, an INTERNATIONAL list. It isn't run by the US. It's run by the UN, actually. Get YOUR facts straight. You are so goddamn clueless it isn't even funny.

You are CLUELESS. Israel can't do a thing without international outcry. If they were pulling air strikes every single night, SOMEONE would say something. By "someone," I mean people, not these terrorist scumbag low-lifes. They don't deserve the title "human."

 

didn't read it all...but I'll say my bit anyways.

I'm sick of the U.S starting s--- for oil, and I'm sick of bush. Don't tell me to stop whining cause I'm not, I'm an activist. and I hate wars with no reason. They're defending Isreal and bringing more s--- for the soldiers that just want to protect their country. Iran can't do anything right now to America, so let it be. Let Isreal handle Isreal's problems.

I don't agree with what Iran is doing whatsoever however. They don't seem to realize that the land belongs to the Jews, and the Jews have the right to fight to keep it. Isreal didn't start the bombings against Iran, that's not in their nature. It's the extremists that take it way to far.

That being said. I also know that a lot of muslims don't agree with suicide bombings either. The Holy Koran does not agree with the deaths of innocents at all. The extremists minds are warped to far to realize this.

 

ignore

just listen to Ferret

 

i shouldnt of read this topic , it just reminds me of how much most people are blind

the US was just waiting for some reason to attack iran , and the israeli army kills Hezbalah members and palesteinian citizens and kids each day

now that they kidnapped 2 of their army and killed 6 , they are called terrorists?

well guess what , there are over 10,000 palesteinian prisoners , for no damn reason but "terrorism" aka "fighting back while your trying to kill my wife and kids"

 

look man, you can look at it your way, and i can look at it my way, but don't make stupid statements like that ok ?

btw, think of a reason why isreal are fighting palestinians

 

I dont think his statments were stupid..
Israel marching almost everyday in and out of palestinian lands, I really dont know why but Iam sure there is a Zionist grand plan behind it.

I bet its all like strategy video game to you..

 

i do think his statements are stupid

nobody here knows enough to post things like this.

Lets talk about pleasant stuff, not about sad stuff.

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btw, he said :

So 9/11 was defending women and children ?
So 7/7 was defending women and children ?

 

He is talking about the so called palestnian terrorism.... not the Al-Qaeda ----s , thats a total different thing.

 

Ok whatever, lets talk about pleasant things

 

^ I dont think this is a topic for pleasant things

 

thats why we shouldn't be arguing about it.

if we start fighting too, then there isn't much hope.

 

Define terrorism for me. Please. Al Qaeda are terrorists. Hezbollah are terrorists. Hamas are terrorists. Palestinians are not terrorists until they pick up that rocket and start shelling Israeli towns, strap on that vest and blow up an Israeli bus full of innocents, or generally attack innocents without a valid reason. By the way, Israeli soldiers are innocent until they are in a conflict with said people (IE fighting them). Until the Israelis start attacking, there is no valid reason to attack them.

Why are Palestinians considered terrorists? A few nut jobs there are terrorists. I think that's pretty obvious. As a people, the Palestinians are not terrorists. However, Hamas and Hezbollah shelling Israeli towns or bombing buses or kidnapping soldiers that they aren't at war with (effectively hostage taking, since they aren't POWs because they aren't "at war."). If they want Israel to leave them alone, they need to realize that it's a two-way street.

Terrorists are held in Israeli jails because they are criminals. They aren't heroes of the Palestinian people, they have a whole slew of legal charges leveled against them. Murder, conspiracy to commit murder, all kinds of stuff. Saying there's no reason to be held, you can also start saying that criminals everywhere should be released from prison.

As for the Iran comment; Bush, I believe, knows by now that an attack on Iran would be suicide. Not so much as to the actual war, because it's quite obvious who would win that one. Think Iraq. Think a country three times as big as Iraq. We could not hold the country for more than a month. You think the Iraq casualties are bad? Multiply that by three. Multiply the terrorist groups exponentially. You think the beheadings and killings so far were bad? Iran is all that and more. As a whole, America would need WILLING support from other countries, who are committed to the cause of stabilizing a post-war Iran. By committed, I don't mean pull out after you suffer a few casualties. I don't mean pull out when the job isn't even close to being done.

 

bush isn't smart enough to realize that. Neither is Rice. America has a bad history with fighting wars they can't win...did anybody say vietnam?

Quite frankly. These wars are for two reasons. Oil, and religion. Judasim + Islam x oil = destruciton. Always has, ever since the days of the crusades. Things just heated up again in the 50s because that was when Isreal was given to the Jews after the Holocaust. Taking holy land from a religious country, and giving it for another religious country, that supposedly has a holy history on that land to...yeah, that's gonna be peaceful.

That being said. Isreal is safe. Iran will never nuke Jerusalim (sp?), or anywhere near it. It'll destroy their own history.

Oh, and Morv, it's called debate, not arguing.