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birdunit · Sep 4, 2009 at 1:09 AM

I have a dell xp computer and i haven't changed the monitor settings ever, so I make my tags and they look fine , color wise, to me, But today i went to the Apple computer store and while i was waiting i checked out their new computers and i logged onto here, GR, and checked out the new posts and what not and i saw that all the tags i've seen before looked different, like my tags looked brighter than what they are on my computer at home. Is there anyway to get my computer to show how other computers are going to see it? like is there a default that all computers share that i can set mine too?
Thanks for the help!

Papermache · Sep 4, 2009 at 1:15 AM

=\. This should be in technology first of all. Moved. Secondly, no there is not, some screens are just made differently.

birdunit · Sep 4, 2009 at 1:31 AM

=\. This should be in technology first of all.[/b]
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Sorry and Ty for the tip I guess I can just work with my apple comp then cause i didn't get why people were saying my image was too bright , but then on the Mac screen it was very bright but on my dell screen it looked fine. =(

Mortified Penguin · Sep 4, 2009 at 3:55 AM

Change your settings...unti it looks the same...

Nicasus · Sep 4, 2009 at 3:56 AM

Screens these days have more advanced panels that make colors stand out more.
Apple is an example of a brand that uses those panels. HP does too, and some Samsung/Acer models as well.

If you want to be sure your monitor settings are how they are supposed to be, hit the menu button on your monitor and switch to the factory settings.

birdunit · Sep 4, 2009 at 4:01 AM

switch to the factory settings.[/b]
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i did this, the screen became way darker with more of a hint of red. hmm.. it's not bad though

xlink · Sep 4, 2009 at 5:03 AM

i'ts because your monitor is crap.

The end.

go spend $$$ on a real monitor. Or do as I did and buy an SIPS based panel off of craigslist for $100 from some idiot who has no idea what he's selling.

xlink · Sep 4, 2009 at 5:06 AM

Screens these days have more advanced panels that make colors stand out more.
Apple is an example of a brand that uses those panels. HP does too, and some Samsung/Acer models as well.

If you want to be sure your monitor settings are how they are supposed to be, hit the menu button on your monitor and switch to the factory settings.[/b]
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umm... every company has access to the same panels. Apple just doesn't use crappy TN based panels on their non imac units.

http://forums.dealmac.com/read.php?4,2781249

You realize the "gloss" they put on screens is just to mask their imperfections. Glossy screens are usually cheap-o TN panels. You'll rarely see a monitor with a IPS or MVA/PVA panel with a glossy coat. Apple's larger stand alone monitors (24" and 30") are intended for a "---" audience and have IPS panels. The iMac monitor uses a TN panel.

Dell's monitors also vary in the type of panel used. So you have to qualify which Dell model. Saying "HD" isn't descriptive enough b/c resolution has nothing to do with the kind of panel used.

Personally, I detest glossy screen. They create over-saturated colors and the glare is annoying. I also don't like TN panels b/c of the narrow viewing angle.[/b]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_film_tra...crystal_display
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lcd#Advanced_...hing_.28AFFS.29

Twisted nematic (TN)
Twisted nematic displays contain liquid crystal elements which twist and untwist at varying degrees to allow light to pass through. When no voltage is applied to a TN liquid crystal cell, the light is polarized to pass through the cell. In proportion to the voltage applied, the LC cells twist up to 90 degrees changing the polarization and blocking the light's path. By properly adjusting the level of the voltage almost any grey level or transmission can be achieved.
[edit]In-plane switching (IPS)
In-plane switching is an LCD technology which aligns the liquid crystal cells in a horizontal direction. In this method, the electrical field is applied through each end of the crystal, but this requires two transistors for each pixel instead of the single transistor needed for a standard thin-film transistor (TFT) display. This results in blocking more transmission area, thus requiring a brighter backlight, which will consume more power, making this type of display less desirable for notebook computers.
[edit]Advanced fringe field switching (AFFS)
Known as fringe field switching (FFS) until 2003,[19] advanced fringe field switching is a similar technology to IPS or S-IPS offering superior performance and color gamut besides high luminosity. AFFS is developed by Boe Hydis Displays, Korea.[20]
AFFS-applied notebook applications minimize color distortion while maintaining its superior wide viewing angle for a ----- display. Color shift and deviation caused by light leakage is corrected by optimizing the white gamut which also enhances white/grey reproduction.
As of 2008, Hitachi acquired AFFS license to manufacture high end panels in their product line. Boe Hydis suspended their production of high quality displays; however, the company still advertises the benefits of the technology[citation needed].
[edit]Vertical alignment (VA)
Vertical alignment displays are a form of LC displays in which the liquid crystal material naturally exists in a vertical state removing the need for extra transistors (as in IPS). When no voltage is applied, the liquid crystal cell remains perpendicular to the substrate creating a black display. When voltage is applied, the liquid crystal cells shift to a horizontal position, parallel to the substrate, allowing light to pass through and create a white display. VA liquid crystal displays provide some of the same advantages as IPS panels, particularly an improved viewing angle and improved black level.[citation needed]
[edit]Blue Phase mode
Main article: Blue Phase Mode LCD
Blue phase LCDs do not require an LC top layer. Blue phase LCDs are relatively new to the market,and very expensive because of the low volume of production. They provide a higher refresh rate than normal LCDs, but normal LCDs are still cheaper to make and actually provide better colors and a sharper image.[citation needed][/b]
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TN displays suffer from limited viewing angles, especially in the vertical direction. Also, TN panels represent colors using only 6 bits per color, instead of 8, and thus are not able to display the 16.7 million color shades (24-bit truecolor) that are available from graphics cards. Instead, these panels display interpolated 24-bit color using a dithering method that combines adjacent pixels to simulate the desired shade. They can also use Frame Rate Control (FRC), which cycles pixels on and off to simulate a given shade. These color simulation methods are noticeable to many people and bothersome to some.[2] FRC tends to be most noticeable in darker tones, while dithering appears to make the individual pixels of the LCD visible. Overall, color reproduction and linearity on TN panels is poor. Shortcomings in display color gamut (often referred to as a percentage of the NTSC 1953 color gamut) are also due to backlighting technology. It is not uncommon for displays with CCFL (Cold Cathode Fluorescent Lamps)-based lighting to range from 40% to 76% of the NTSC color gamut, whereas displays utilizing white LED backlights may extend past 100% of the NTSC color gamut—a difference quite perceivable by the human eye.[/b]
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so basically
TN= lowend crap, it's what you get when you buy a monitor with "low MS and lots of inches" for $150 at walmart
VA= good but not suited for gaming
IPS = $$$$ but the best.

my advice, buy used on craigslist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_monitors
I have a 2005FPW and only spent $100 on it. it's notably superior than my e207wfp which I spent $250 on a while back

Papermache · Sep 4, 2009 at 5:11 AM

<3 my gloss <3 my colors. My signature looks so beautiful and rich on this screen.

xlink · Sep 4, 2009 at 6:36 AM

<3 my gloss <3 my colors. My signature looks so beautiful and rich on this screen.[/b]
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umm yeah, but you're only seeing 262,144 out of 16,777,216 of them. Oversaturation does not equate to image quality, I'd suggest adjusting your videocard/monitor calibration to get ACCURATE color representation. I have a TN panel based monitor next to an SIPS panel right now and the difference is immediately noticeable. I told my parents I bought a new monitor for $100 to use as a second monitor. They walked in, took a lot at my setup and told me I got ripped off stating that the monitor on the right looked like ---- compared to my old one... they were denouncing the TN based screen... I've had a few friends over... they all have the same conclusion, the colors suck on the TN. It's one of those things you'll never notice unless you have two side by side.

xlink · Sep 5, 2009 at 1:05 AM

http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/s-ips-lcd-list.php

Display Model Size Resolution Price Notes
Apple Cinema Displays 20"
23"
30" 1680 x 1050
1920 x 1200
2560 x 1600 $600 to
$1,800
Apple LED Cinema Displays 24" 1920 x 1200 $899
* Dell 2007WFP 20" 1680 x 1050 $400 Dell used two panel types, S-IPS and S-PVA, in the 2007WFP so a S-IPS panel isn't guranteed. Discontinued.

Dell 2209WA 22" 1680 x 1050 $300 Uses and e-IPS panel. e-IPS is basically a more economical S-IPS panel that is cheaper to produce. Currently not available from directly from Dell as they have been unable to keep up with demand. More supply expected soon.
Dell 3007WFP-HC 30" 2560 x 1600 $1,400
Dell 3008WFP 30" 2560 x 1600 $2,000
Dell U2410 NEW 24" 1920 x 1200

DoubleSight DS-263N 26" 1920 x 1200 $700
DoubleSight DS-265W 26" 1920 x 1200 $600
Hazro HZ23W 23" 1920 x 1200

Hazro HZ24W 24" 1920 x 1200

Hazro HZ26W 26" 1920 x 1200 £500
Hazro HZ26Wi 26" 1920 x 1200 £500 Uses an H-IPS panel.
Hazro HZ30W 30" 2560 x 1600 £900
* HP L2335 23" 1920 x 1200 $900
HP LP2475w 24" 1920 x 1200 $650 Uses an H-IPS panel.
HP LP3065 30" 2560 x 1600 $1,400
Lacie 320 20" 1600 x 1200 $900
LG L2000CP 20" 1600 x 1200 $450
LG W2600HP 26" 1920 x 1200 $1,100 There seems to be a multiple versions of this display, not all being IPS.
LG W3000H 30" 2560 x 1600 $1,400
NEC EA231WMi NEW 23" 1920 x 1080 $400
* NEC 20WMGX2 20" 1680 x 1050 $500 Discontinued
NEC LCD2190UXi-BK 21.3" 1600 x 1200 $1,000
NEC LCD2490WUXi 24" 1920 x 1200 $1,200 Uses an H-IPS panel and A-TW Polarizer resulting in the best viewing angles of any LCD technology.
NEC LCD2490WUXi2 24" 1920 x 1200 $1,100 Differs from the LCD2490WUXi in that it has no A-TW polarizer.
NEC LCD2690WUXi 26" 1920 x 1200 $1,200 Like the 24" version, this also uses an H-IPS panel and A-TW Polarizer.
NEC LCD2690WUXi2 26" 1920 x 1200 $1,300
NEC LCD3090WQXi 30" 2560 x 1600 $2,200 Uses an H-IPS panel.
* Philips 230WP7NS 23" 1920 x 1200 $900 Discontinued
Philips 240PW9EB/69 24" 1920 x 1200

Planar PX2611W 26" 1920 x 1200 $800 Uses an H-IPS panel.[/b]
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inverse · Sep 8, 2009 at 6:16 AM

xlink just owned everyone.

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