Immigration And The United States

canada they cross the border too

 

Listen...

Who were the first in this country? NativeAmericans!
So, how the hell... do anyone other than them have jurisdiction over who can come and go in this country?

 

Dont forget to fill the moat with alligators.

Umm....What about the Canadian border. Canada's a rich country, and the US doesnt have a problem with immigration with Canada, Its obvious. It does, have a problem with mexico, For you people that say why should we care? Well, Chances are your not paying taxes yet. Chances are if your an American your grandparents or who ever came to america legally, and were background checked about there criminal history, and also checked for diseases. Without doubt there are alot of illegal criminals crossing the border, which include rapists, murders, and all types of other criminals. Well, back to the tax, Since you must not pay taxes in the US to the people who said they dont care, well, There not cheap and you dont wanna let people freeload of them, and share the same priviledges without any taxes to others. Back to the past immigration issues, Mexicans have it good here, They have merely no rasism against them compared to older immigration. Back years ago, When my great grandparents come from Italy, They were looked down on, and discriminated against. They were forced to live in "ghettos" and basicly forced learn English to have a job. So dont give that bull---- it takes time to learn english, Most Illegal Immigrats dont give a ----, they make there money, send it home, and freeload of our tax payers.

Thats immpossible and not smart at all, not to flame you but you cant make millions of people citizens with the wave of a magic immigration stick. And the only reason they come here is because the "----ty wages" arent nearly as ----ty as theres at home, Why would there wages increase anyway it would just go to minimal wage, which there at already. If there wages are increased, theres no reason to hire there wages, most of there jobs are in manual labor, which isnt immpossible to do, its just a ----ty job that most americans wanna get paid for more. If there wages are increased then they wont have jobs since the only reason they get hired is there cheap labor.

:huh: Do you even know? Living on a border state doesnt give you anymore knowledge on it. A person on a border state can be just as uneducated as one not.

Umm the people who built it and pays for everything with there tax money? America wasnt just there, and doesnt run of pixy dust. People pay for it, coming here illegally mean you dont pay, and thats a crime, and you should be deported for it.

 

I dont mind mexicans and immigrants coming over. Just ILLEGAL ONES. They benefit from services without paying taxes. Their children get free education when the schools are already packed because we can not afford more Classrooms and teachers. Some of my classes have over 30-40 students in them. That is unbelievable.

And all this bullcrap about ILLEGAL immigrants doing jobs for less than minimum and jobs we wouldnt even do... People who need jobs WILL do it, regardless of what you have to do. Survive or get a job yea the jobs will be replaced, and if they arent the wage will go up, appealing more attractive. Boosting the eco.

Illegal means illegal, you can't barge in on a country expecting free services.

 

If thats the case, illegal aliens who mix into our culture and become tax paying citizens fall where?

thats pretty much the modernized American Dream, Your fore fathers came here in pursuit of the same things that the illegal immigrants are coming here for now. Yes there not paying, but if they turn around and begin to become a functioning part of America, I see little problem.

 

Umm, yes but my fore fathers came here legally.


"Yes there not paying"
Thats the problem


"but if they turn around and begin to become a functioning part of America"
Keyword= IF
If they dont(which is how it looks now) then were going to have some serious financial problems ahead.

"Illegal means illegal, you can't barge in on a country expecting free services."

Amen

 

Legally by who's law? certainly not the natives...

and can you think of an America withthout illegal immigrants? i can almost guarantee it would be a weaker one.

and this problem.. is not new, so why crackdown on it hard now? maybe draw people's focus away from the three year war which was supposed to end within a few months?

 

The natives dont run the government.

This is a currently rising problem because of the protesting and bills to be passed. Do not bring a topic that diverts the attention from the focus of this thread. And i would like to see an america w/out illegal immigrants.

Schools will be less crowded, more jobs available. Me and my friends are constantly trying to do work for other people but they always got some illegals doing it for them. Mowing the lawn, painting houses, etc. People with this profession arent getting work. Construction workers, restraunt workers are jobs that can be easily replaced. My bus drives by quick trip everyday and there are tons of illegal immigrants sitting there waiting to be pickd up for 1 dollar an hour.

 

I didn't read this whole thing and I did not even attempt to see what has been said before. So, I might say something that has already been said.

I have heard, yes, HEARD, that they where thinking of getting some of the prisoners to be boreder patrol. Yes, instead of them setting in their airconditioned jail cells (not the HARD CORE criminals.. just the ones that could maybe be let out a bit) and take them out there and let them shoot em as they come over. This is just something I heard... I said... let em... it might help a bit of everything. Then we would have prisoners worth something and we would have dead boreder hoppers. I say that sounds like a pretty decent idea.

 

"and can you think of an America withthout illegal immigrants? i can almost guarantee it would be a weaker one."
Yes i can 1992 and before(little immigration problem)
No...it wouldnt be weaker. Sorry but This hasnt also's been a HUGE problem, like back like 10-15 years ago, we werent any weaker and had little immigration problem

 

The problem here is the ILLEGAL immigrants. from WHATEVER country. Its a real kick in the balls to those in countries like England and Canada who actually take the time to go through an entire screening process to get into the U.S. as citizens. Canada doesn't have a problem because they have as lives about as good as Americans and its a more beautiful country anyway.

 

mexces.. what the hell is up with giving me a -1 and calling me a racist? that BS and you know it. Obviously, you didnt take the time to read my post.

 

the worst place for illegals to come in is the uk...

they come get free homes fully furnished. free food and vouchers etc then all a sudden our tax's rise. i wonder what for?

thats why i dont wont blair he said he "isnt" going to tighten our borders because he wants to leave as priminister being liked by everyone..... WTF?!?

this has got to do with borders so i posted

 

Lol damn true

It makes me mad when i think about it. Like you said tax..i pay 18% of what i earn and iam only 18! and if you earn over 60,000 quid a year they TAKE 40% of you!? WTF!? :blink: . They come here get OUR homes while we have thousands of homeless english citezens and then we cant get into OUR OWN dentists... so while blair is spending billions on them and 15 billion (ha ha oh my god tis unbelievable) on the olimpic stadium people like me are struggling to get far in life coz of them and while were payin for them...They hold up signs saying...."be head those who insult islam" Your doom is coming" etc all over a ----in cartoon!!!! Damn them to hell i used to be so proud to be british (still am) but it wont be too long before ...say in 20 years time they are breedin with white women so soon its all gonna be mixed race....so its not gonna be England for long... :censored: God! Just glad i wont be around to see it properly... This world gettin ----ked up....anyway yeah at least usa is huge cant you just put them outta the way in the country outback preferbly near leatherface...(texas chain saw massacre) lol ^_^

 

I know this is completely inhumane but with 3rd world countries I think we should just bomb them all extremely inhumane....but problem solved. We gave them condoms they refused to use them then they have kids and expect us to bail them out I mean jesus...the world can only do so much people protect their own. I at the moment know what im talking about as my sis *stupidly* went to Algeria to meet a guy off the net and now that she's went there everything we said is true all he wants is a passport, he lied to her about everything there ----s and we should bomb them all!!