I Divided By Zero, Oshi-

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  1. SolarHavok

    SolarHavok Well-Known Member

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    But isnt anything divided by zero 0 ? i mean lets get down to the basics of math

    5x4

    ----- 5
    ----- 5
    ----- 5
    ----- 5
    add em up its 20

    5 x 0
    there are 0 5s so there are no dashes so its 0
     
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    SolarHavok Well-Known Member

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    No, we've always been taught that 0 is an infinite number, and you can't really define an infinite number now, can you?
     
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    pretty interesting, I guess it wont be undefined anymore
     
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    That actually pretty sexy, I like it.
    question: Will it also be compatible in the real world rather than just the digital world?
     
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    interesting thnks for sharing
     
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    I think I heart about this. So what happens when nullity is divided by 0? Again nullity?

    And what about nullity or something else divided by nullity?
     
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    xlink GR's Tech Enthusiast

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    umm well

    lets find

    limit as x=>0 for

    (x-1) / [(e^x) - 1]

    in this scenario, you get a situation where you must find a limit of a number which approaches 0/0

    using L'Hopitols rule, you can take the derivative of both the numerator and the denominator to get

    =>
    1/ e^x

    =1

    basically 0/0 can equal anything








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    now..... for something like |1/x| as x approaches 0 the answer is infinity(graph it)

    for -|1/x| as x approaches 0 the answer is negative infinity(graph it)

    for 1/x as x approaches 0 the value does not exist(graph it)



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    if a problem is simply defined as an equation /0 then this si basically what has been said for the past 1200 years, it can equal anything rational irrational or imaginary.





















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    I just went over the videos and actually read the article.

    basically his argument is flawed in this simple way.

    he states 0^0=0^1*0^-1

    if that's true then
    0^0=0^2*0^-2

    and that's where it falls apart

    (0/1)^2*(0/1)^ would = nullity^2 based off of substitution from his method where (0/1)*(0/1)^-1=nullity

    so by his theory nullity would have to be a number which exists such that nullity^n=nullity where n is any number n. the only number which holds true for this would be 1 and as such nullity would then have to equal 1. Or else be undefined... which is right back where we were but now with a new symbol.

    furthermore
    1/0 != infinity
    -1/0 != -infinity

    the limit of 1/|x| as x approaches 0 is infinity
    the limit of -1/|x| as x approaches 0 is -infinity

    but 1/0 is still undefined.
     
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    Wow that's pretty cool
     
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    We learned these problems in Calc 2 close to the beginning of the school year...some of those comments are great :rofl:
     
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    I messed with my teacher on a math test with this, for a problem I didn't understand... She thought it was pretty funny.
     
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    >_> I'm only in algebra 2 so thinking logically 0 is a complete absence of value, so dividing by zero is impossible because 0 does not exist, being used as a placeholder is the same as putting a smiley face there and saying it is nothing, looking at a problem one divided by "absence of value" would not be a valid equation because the second variable isn't present, thats like dividing 3 by pencil, because its not a numerical value it wouldn't have a proper solution, I didn't bother to try to understand some of the previous posts but technically speaking why does x^0=1, being any number multiplied by itself 0 times would yield nothing because the number technically doesnt exist due to the exponent being a absence of value, after everything its used for a 0 still comes down to being a place holder, as an example 1,000 could be written in scientific notation but it would continue in an endless cycle because of the 10^x.. in short 0 sucks >0
     
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    Wait, noone seemed to understand the most disturbing part of that article.

     

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