Hallucinogens

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  1. cosine

    cosine Well-Known Member

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    There are tons of hallucinogenic drugs, but the most powerful one is DMT. The weird thing about DMT is that it is produced in your brain and it's responsible for your dreams. It's much stronger than LSD and, likewise, it's illegal. It's funny because everyone could technically be charged with possession of it since it's a chemical that the brain produces.
     
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    DMT may give a "stronger trip" than LSD but it is not "stronger" as it's not the same chemical. It's like saying apples are stronger than oranges. Also, people usually take a lot more DMT weightwise than LSD per use, and DMT gives an experience which is a lot shorter, so it's not nessaserly stronger at all.

    Also our bodies produce a ton of chemicals that are technically illegal to possess.
     
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    Cuz you have so many studies to back that up. /facepalm

    http://www.nida.nih.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html
     
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    marijuana is actually believed to stimulate brain cell growth. The "weed kills brain cells" stuff was propaganda based on a badly carried out scientific study which was later proved false.
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    Cuz you have so many studies to back that up. /facepalm

    http://www.nida.nih.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html
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    Why yes, yes I do. A science magazine too, not a government website designed to put people off illegal drugs (not saying that website in particular has any misinformation but often they do, I cant be bothered checking everything that site says to confirm the validity of the sources cited).

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn8155

    And here would be my cited source about it not killing braincells: http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#brain

    Try not to be a retard chanfag at every opportunity, just because I cant be bothered citing something doesn't mean I'm making it up.
     
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    Cuz you have so many studies to back that up. /facepalm

    http://www.nida.nih.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html
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    Why yes, yes I do. A science magazine too, not a government website designed to put people off illegal drugs (not saying that website in particular has any misinformation but often they do, I cant be bothered checking everything that site says to confirm the validity of the sources cited).

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn8155

    And here would be my cited source about it not killing braincells: http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#brain

    Try not to be a retard chanfag at every opportunity, just because I cant be bothered citing something doesn't mean I'm making it up.
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    The website I linked had numerous journaled articles cited at the bottom.

    I have no problem agreeing with THC not killing brain cells. Your article did not suggest THC could cause neurogenesis, it used HU210. HU210 is signifcantly more potent that THC. Simply being a cannabimimetic substance is not enough to show they'll have similar effects.
     
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    o_O.o
     
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    My study shows that cannabis may stimulate brain cell growth. I promised nowhere in my post that it was a fact.

    Also, my showing that cannabis does not kill brain cells was because I was unaware of which point of mine you wanted me to find a source for, since you instead wasted your post with pointless chanfaggery.
     
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    No, your news article suggests marijuana does that. The study from http://www.jci.org/articles/view/JCI25509 which was linked in said news article does not. It says HU210 may stimulate growth. Its a cannabinoid but signifcant structural differences make it incredibly more potent, to such an extent that an equivalent does of THC from smoking pot would be incredibly difficult to obtain.
     
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    no way smoking is gross i will never ever smoke!
    is this a good idea, doctor marforce?
     
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    Weeee i start discussion lol also the majority of those cited articles off of the government site are there for a reason, to back the government's opinion to increase belief in the exact thing you are arguing. Just my opinion though I guess...
     
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    drugs are bad :( mmk?
     
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    is snorting cocaine less harmful than smoking :>
     
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    steez I would say it definitely is just on the fact that it looks so white! LoL anywho legalize something that isn't harmful mmkaY
     
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    Weed made my penis go all flopsy. =(

    I've been away for 3 weeks, come back and this discussion is still going strong. I'm suprised.
     
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    I'm kinda baffled at the amount of drug-users in the United States. Some people grow up in environments where you can find 5 types of drugs in each house in a neighborhood, and I don't blame people from those societies from getting addicted to drugs, since it's such a common thing for them to see. What I don't understand is when rich kids from the suburbs of large cities intentionally go into the city at 3am to buy drugs from shady dealers. What is the point? I don't get the excitement of it. "Oh, I'm doing drugs, this is so cool, the sky is freakin' orange. Oh ----, I think I'm about to lapse into a coma dude."

    I personally have never done drugs, never smoked, drank, or done anything of that sort. I am 17, and sure, there are tons of pressures to do drugs/smoke/drink, more than 50% of my friends do. I just don't see the point. I would much rather do other more fun things, such as i.e. flirting with girls, hanging out with friends and actually doing something entertaining, or actually studying to get into a college that will pave a path for me to live in this corrupt, tainted place we call Earth. I don't have time to get addicted to drugs, to waste my money on them, or to go to jail.

    Drugs are dangerous and illegal. And not like eating-sugar-will-give-you-diabetes dangerous or downloading-crap-off-the-Internet illegal, more like you're-gonna-die-a-shameful-death-by-drugs dangerous and you're-gonna-go-to-jail-and-get-ass-raped-by-some-guy-named-Jorge illegal.
     

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