G R Crews

how would a monthly fee keep the crew active, it would destroy a lot of crews. I dont even see why so many creds is a problem, so much is required to start a crew, but crews really dont do anything special

 

It doesn't even have to be monthly. It could be every 6 months, etc.

And Kirbir how much exactly did you pay for your crew? Because after all, wasn't it made by GR for GR. If that is the case then anything you buy and give out, is given out per free will. You cannot use that in an argument here, Because I see no reason why it should hold.

 

I paid 5k for my crew and no my crew was not made by GR :blink:

 

J Maj - That is our point! We are trying to make it so crews are no longer just people with letters in front of their names. Fees would keep them active, trying to get the payments, and would get rid of the dead crews. I just thought of something else - maybe not just abolish the crews that dont pay, give them a warning and make them pay 25%extra the next week, something like that. All in all if they dont pay the fees by the time the next payments are do their thread will be closed. Not deleted, because if they pay the re-instatement fee or something then it will reopen. I dont know, just spitballing.

Kirbir, I understand your crew is active and all, but do you ever look beyond your own? You might not notice how many crews havent done a darn thing in months for the community. Maybe like 3 crews have shops, but are selling stuff for over 500 credits. I was just thinking of some way to keep the other crews, as Phenom said, "on their feet". I know you are all about the community, and I am too, I havent sold anything for as long as I can remember, everything I do is free. And I do a lot. But as far as producing 1000 creidts per month with your crew, that wouldnt be too bad. But as we got orders from RA, no discussing that.

I do not understand what you dislike about the crew battles?
I think that is one of the coolest things... Crews will get some competition to work against. They will get to work together on a large collab or something. Not only would this be fun for the crew, but it would be fun for everyone to see what some of these groups could do. I would really look forward to what could happen when the best of the best join forces to create a large piece or something.

I just dont understand why you disagree with some of this stuff. Crew battles is completely optional for the crew. And there is more to the monthly payment idea that I cant single handedly think of here. There might even be a way to gauge donations and credit them as a payment. It is just a way to make sure crews are actually making a *public* difference here at GR. Teaching members of your crew is absolutely great I think, but I believe crews are more than just that.


No hard feelings,
Alex

 

I thought GR mafia was a Crew.

But still, if you buy something and give it out then your doing it of your own free will. If your crew gives out LR packs for free, then fine. Your opinion holds a lot with the Mods, so if you dislike something with a strong passion then it will effect their judgement on it.

And about the monthly, payment, etc. You ask how it would help the crew be active:

"I also don't see how these changes would help to keep a crew active, if anything it would make people close a lot of the crews down as they would not be able to afford a monthly bill and meet the requirements that some of you guys are asking for."

With the Bill, etc. It will make crews more... harder to make.

Why do we want crews who do nothing, other then as someone said "Have a cool name."

I sponsored a crew, and I see nothing done with it, and I see it as kind of a loss. I guarantee if these things are implemented then crews will be harder to make, etc People will actually want to join them because it will not only give them a name, but it will give them a status to be known for.

 

adding a monthly subscription to maintaining a crew is just going to make this aspect worse. i'm all for having something to keep crews on their feet, but i think it has to be something that focuses them on the art and not on the bloody sig-exchange.

 

Whats up entropy?

I dont get what you mean by "sig-exchange"...

And wouldnt a crew battle thing keep them moving artisticaly?

And also as we previously stated. make a LR pack with your crew. Sell it for a couple credits and the monthly fee will be no problem. If you give and give to the community for free, as I previously stated that I do a lot too, they will understand that you have to earn a few credits and they will in turn give back to you.

I think I previously stated 1000 for a monthly fee. But who am I to set a price? I think I mentioned something like that and everyone thinks it is going to be too much. Dont think of the price, think of the idea. The price will come later.

I do not understand how a monthly fee will not keep a crew motivated, and how it will not be a good way of getting rid of old, washed up, inactive crews that are just using there letters to gain a couple extra credits.

 

Then do something to where the Crews Have to do SOMETHING.

The crews have no ambition. I think if we don't do a payment, we should do a battle or something where the crews get together.

They shouldn't be forced to give out free stuff, it's their own decision. (So please don't ask for that)

Do something minor, etc.

 

whatup scope?

i was talking about the offers and request section xD it reminds me of the stock exchange sometimes..

i got nothing against battles...all for it..i actually thought that was already in place for crews as well...

i was thinking of maybe something like having crews be required to contribute something to the GR community every month. either free or for creds. the leaders would have to let the mods (perhaps a new cred mod position?) the previous month....a compulsory assignment if you will...

basically i'd like to see something that isn't focussed on creds and explcitly demands activity from the crew as a whole. i dont want to see an inactive crew that pays its subscription through some smart economics by 10% of its members.

 

I agree man, one guy could be striking it rich and may want to keep his crew initials and is willing to pay. There has to be a better way, but I think credits is the best right now. This could be unfair to some crews, but I really think any crew can come up with a couple hundred without complaining.

And I think I also stated earlier, possibly do what the GR Mafia does, you could either donate credits or resources. If you donate resources they will set a value, IE: Sig PSD LR is same as 100 credits donation. So a crew releases a huge 30 PSD learning pack, upon decision by staff, they do not have to make a credit payment this month. Or if staff notices them making big progress as a crew, making collabs together etc. they may give them 200 off or something. Something among those lines.

 

if each crew had to make a free resource/tutorial pack would be a good idea

 

OR make the payment?

Yea, I definetely think this would be sweet.

Are we talking free to the community for LR or what?

And what do you think about crew battles?

 

Pack sounds good.

only good thing that actually sounds like it can go into effect.

 

I guess it could be an optional thing that each individual crew could make either a resource pack or a payment.

 

i agree....X creds a month is the most consistent way to keep a crew active...ideally i'd like to see a 'creds or community contribution every month...cred payment allowed only 2 times consecutively..' so that the crew has to come out with some contribution to the community atleast every 3rd month...

it really depends on how much work the staff are willing to put into getting activity out of the crews...