Evidence That Bible Is True

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  1. beatsta

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    I'd rather not live my life believing in something just because it can't be disproved. If I did i would believing in fairys, goblins, magical ponies with 10 dicks etc. I'd rather not give my life up to a god who'd commit me to eternal agony for doubting it's existance.
     
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    Well then He has every right to commit you to eternal agony if you deny him dont you think?

    After all he doesnt owe you a thing.
     
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    Eternal agony for not beliving in something that has no proof of there existance? Doesn't seem very fair, i'm happy without god if it's like that it sounds like a dictator.
     
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    No not really

    You are bashing a person(for example) and saying he doesnt exist, do you expect him have a good judgement on you?
     
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    But what does it expect when there no evidence of it's existance.
     
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    oy vey. i read like a few pages of this topic and i was amased how many people weren't debating, they were just being plain mean and insulting. wow. i don't beleive in christianity, for my own reasons, but people. dont slam other people's beleifs. i mean really, if you cant come up with a better reason than to slam someone's opinions than maybe you really don't know what you are saying...


    EDIT: okay like now, people are debating, but the first few pages there was a lot of flaming
     
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    This where faith comes in, if god gave us material proof of his existance like seeing him for instance, all people without question will follow him and go to heaven, but thats not possible because heaven cant have all the human beings that are, were and will be on this earth..

    And I dont know about how the bible proves it, but Iam fully satisfied with the way the Quran(Islamic holy book) intrprets it, Iam a muslim btw.
     
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    The idea of my intelligence is what makes me confused and believe in religion itself but what if when i die i just wasted my time in religion and there is nothing after death?

    Religion is anything we take at heart, anything we do rigorously as a pattern to live our lives. There is good religion and bad religion, some call it good karma or bad karma. But do i really need religion to be good or bad? Religion is just a way to accept my guilt of the wrongs i believe that i have done in my life. Religion is just an excuse to make me feel better. The bible as any other book are made to support the insecurities of people themselves. Many people are gullible and believe anything told to them as a promise to solve their problems. Any loser will adopt religion as a scape goat to accept reality. Prisoners adopt religion as a scape goat to make themselves feel better for the crimes they committed. In the present and in the past every country at war use religion to justify the atrocities of killing other human beings.

    Every war in history both sides claimed to their god to save them from death and to be prosperous in their war against their enemies. What is religion used for then? I am sure that religion is just the means to destroy others at the expense of destroying others right to live and exist. If there would be no religions that influence so much the lives of full societies there would be more peace in the world today.

    Just look at us here in this thread, we argue and try to defend our points of view. Points of view that harvest our thoughts around the environment where we experienced our grown up. My suggestion is that instead of arguing and saying this or that religion is right or wrong. Instead of saying, this religion is the absolute truth, we should try to be tolerant and forget of religious differences. We should all strive for a better world getting along as human beings. Getting along is so simple that we grow bored of listening to it every day but yet is so hard to achieve because of some narcissistic self centered worm that creeps into many of our thoughts.



    Typo corrected:
    It there would be no religions equals If there would be no religions
     
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    Care to explain this part? Is there a limit of people allowed in heaven or am i reading it incorrectly.
     
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    No not a limit ......

    This world is about punishment and reward, heaven and hell, action and consequence..

    There has to be a balance, but its your choice to either be punished or rewarded be in heaven or hell ...etc.
     
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    The fact that bad luck can condemn someone to eternal torture is absolutely ridiculous. People are given time to accept faith in god in to their lives. However, time is not equally distributed giving some people a lot more time to accept god than others.

    If one atheist kills another atheist, logic dictates both go to hell. However, if the murderer then accepts god while in prison, he goes to heaven, despite the fact that he robbed the other person of the chance at eternal salvation. He has "played god."

    The murdered atheist burns in a lake of fire forever because he did not have the time to accept god that the murderer did. He is put on equal terms with the worst of humanity, all because of a human judging another human and murdering him, depriving that person of the chance the murderer had.

    Revelations states no different levels of hell, just a lake of fire. Equal punishment but not equal chance. This isn't fair, and says to me that humans have the ability to condemn other humans to hell, which a benevolent god would not allow.

    The whole concept of heaven/hell seems very unfair when people have different chances.
     
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    If you die before you become a grown up(on biological basis) and you were an athiest, or w/e you are reliefed from judgment and go straight to heaven, but if you die when you are already a grown up and you didnt believe then yeah you might go to hell but its not a defenite because god forgives....most people become fully grown men around 20 so you have more than alot of time to choose...that is in Islam, and there is also different levels of hell and heaven too.
     
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    ALL I see is people saying Bible is complete Bull----, Fact is we dont know, All i have posted was alot of proof on It might(is) true.
    I see No Facts stated but someguy saying his family is dieing, I feel sorry for you and best wishes, I am a true believer in the bible and god and jesus.
    Please Post facts? Instead of total ---- on you cant prove.
    Ever heard of the devil?
    He deceives you and tricks you.
     
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    People beleive in religion, because it makes them feel secure.. They are emotional insecure and it gives them something to hold onto. There are loads of religions, and they all claim to of created the world one way or another, only one can be right? Or they can all be wrong, and they are.. Religion is the basis of war, war is bad.. Therefor, religion is bad. But if it makes you feel more secure beleiving on some fraudulent mofo who claims to of walked on water, you do that. :lol:

    ~NMX
     
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    In every religion right or wrong, There is a hell and A sort of heaven. and ALot of these religions Never heard of Christianity or Jesus but they do have a form of it. plz Explain to me How all this could not be true?
     
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