Earth, Space, Evolution, Universe... Life?

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  1. Mrblixs

    Mrblixs Well-Known Member

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    i do not belive in aliens and i do belive in life after death but ya i think the earth is gona be destroyed but ill be long since dead before that happpnes and the whole meterior thang is a load of crap they said y2k was gona kill us all but look nothing happened its just stupid scientists making up stuff so it looks like there doing work and not sitting on there asses making stupid comments
     
  2. .bcn

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    Here, I give you this, if "God" didn't create any other race or being, why isn't earth the center of the universe?

    Also, y2k was a scare tactic fromt he government, and just stupid rumours, it wasn't from any scientists...

    And they didn't say we were going to die, they only said that any electrical utilities that use time, will get mixed up because of 00
     
  3. Honor.

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    Im going to touch on the topic of evolution. I believe this and I do not believe in god. Something stuck to me that my science teacher told us a long time ago, he said "I have studied science and believe in evolution but I also believe in God and Adam and Eve, who's to say Adam and Eve were not the first of the evolution chain?" Might not be correct to according to the bible but I wouldnt know...
     
  4. XxLostXx

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    It's a hard thing to believe in something without people judging your opinions. Like most of my friends don't believe in god, then i ask them why and they can't give a proper answer. They always come up with lame comments like "i'm not a priest" then i'm like wtf? you're not a priest or a vicar when you have a strong belief in something. Truly i don't see heaven as the perfect white place with gates that some people consider it as, though i do believe that there is some form of life after death and there is a person who is stronger and more powerful that human beings who controls us.
     
  5. PUMAS!

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    Well the stuff about aliens and evolution and even religion can mix, think about it. Maybe we were created by aliens (God) that watch over us (angels) and maybe all the stuff about religion was all done by them, resurection, miracles, when the water split for moses, the great flood, stuff like that, I'm not saying that i belive in all this stuff but you never know, but i do belive in God and life after death. And not in aliens.
     
  6. Gruntkilla

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    The question everyone wants answered is this: How do you travel in time? It is a simple question, but the answer is not quite as simple.

    Where to begin? There are so many aspects. Let's begin with how time is calculated.

    Relative Time (the Universal Time Factor)

    To travel in time you will require computer hardware and software that is probably beyond the technology presently available to us. But all the silicon in the world won't help you overcome the biggest hurdle for the hardware. Dr. VonSchnelling puts it best:


    As I told my friend Albert, time is relative. A zecond is a zecond because vee zay it is a zecond. A day is a day because zat is the time it takes for our vorld to rotate once on its axis. On another vorld, it would be different. A machine has no concept of time. Certainly you can make a machine count forvard with quartz and crystal and mechanisms zat zimulate time, but zat is all it does... zimulate. How do you make a machine count... backwards? How am I to tell my computer "take me to June 16th, 1927"? And does the machine require me to input a precise time? Should I be precise to the minute? the zecond? the nanozecond?


    The Absolute Density of the Universe (the Bucket Factor)

    A commonly ignored obstacle to time travel is the simple fact that the universe can only hold so much matter. This is commonly referred to as the "Bucket Factor" by our engineers. Again we refer you to Dr. VonSchnelling's notes:


    Imagine zat zee universe is a bucket. zis bucket is full of water to zee brim. Zuppose now that a time traveller from zee future arrives in zis universe. Pretend zat your fist is zee time traveller. Plunge your fist into zee bucket. Water spills from zee bucket. You have just filled the universe with more mass zan it can zupport. You have just exploded zee universe. Zat is not good.

    And what of the universe zat the time traveller has just left? Zere is now less mass in that universe zan zere should be. Zee inevitable conclusion is zat zuch an action would cause and immediate black hole zat would swallow zee entire universe. Zat is not good, either.


    The Theories

    To understand the repercussions of time travel, you must understand quantum mechanics and quantum realities. Dr. VonSchnelling simplifies quantum realities for us:


    Many of us understand the gist of quantum realities. Zimply put, every action creates an alternate universe. Examples of zis are numerous. Turn left down zis street and not right down zat street, and you will not have a car accident. You zimply need to ask yourself "vat if" to understand the repercussions of zuch a zeory. Vat if Napoleon had decided to get up one night for a znack and had tripped on his robe and broken his neck? What if zee cave man who discovered fire decided to zleep in zat day?

    But quantum mechanics operates on a much smaller scale zan zat. The zeory proposes zat every minuscule action and event has an opposite. Entvine zis with zee chaoz zeory and time travel becomes quite dangerous.

    Zuppoze your time traveller arrives in a grassy field. Every blade of grass crushed underfoot, every particle of oxygen he inhales and carbon dioxide he exhales, every cell of dead skin he sheds; it all has an effect on zee universe around him. Zpend one minute in zee past, and return to discover zat the President of the United States is not who you remember.


    Details

    Logic would suggest that if time travel were ever to exist, then it already does. If time travel is possible, then the methods required will eventually be devised. Maybe it will take another 10 thousand years to discover the secrets of time travel, but if it's possible, then it's inevitable. Which suggests that time travellers are already visiting us... and visiting our past. What does that mean? To comprehend this, we must look at the many possible repercussions of time travel.

    Theory A - Fate (Circular Causation) - Travel back in time to save someone's life only to discover that it cannot be avoided, or worse yet, you were in fact the cause of the person's death in the first place. This is amongst the most plausible theories.

    Theory B - Alternate Universe - Travel back in time to save someone's life, succeed, return to your time to discover that nothing has changed... you've only changed the timeline of an alternate quantum reality. This theory is also amongst the most plausible.

    Theory C - Success - Travel back in time to kill your great-grandfather and succeed. This theory is very unlikely since if you were to successfully kill your great-grandfather, you would inevitably never be born, and therefore never go back in time to kill your great-grandfather. Thus the paradox and the implausibility.

    Theory D - Observer Effect - Travel back in time to alter history and succeed, but the only persons capable of differentiating between the reality left behind and the new reality are those directly associated with the time travel... the time traveller. The extent of the paradox rests in how the time traveller is affected. Existing "out of time", he may not be affected by whatever changes he inflicts on the timeline, thus the time traveller himself becomes a stranger in this "new" present. He may, in fact, go back in time, kill his great-grandfather, and return to the present to discover that there are no records of his own existance.

    Dr. VonSchnelling has addressed these hurdles in his computations and he believes he has overcome them. We suppose only time will tell.
     
  7. mentos

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    i heard the beginning of the end of the world is supposed to start tommorrow... :/
     
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    You can't travel in time ... Time is the only thing that everything has, and if you take that away, everything will be non-existant. Just a pin prick can't totall destroy the structure of time.

    This may contradict my statement about but...

    Time is man made, its a label we use to record the "past"

    Time is non-physical also, so we as physical beings, cannot manipulate it.
     
  9. Scratch.

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    aliens: i dunno i kinda think there are but not like us like those microscopic viruses and stuff and weird shaped so they can't have technologie ROFL , and yes i still believe in GOD for i think this all never would happend without him

    earth: yes we all wil die eventually :eek:

    evolution: nope i dont believe in them, why isn't the human race evolving anymore or the animals. if there is evolution from ape to human have they found bones of the apehuman between the evolution?? i think they just where harry :P

    meteor: hmmz we will probably have technologie better then now and destroy the meteor, thats what i think.

    life: yes i do believe in life after dead, lol i think its eather; new life as in turning into another thing or heaven or dream land
     
  10. Biggy

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    To answer the question above about evolution. You can't see evolution because it is slow it takes thousands of years to see a big change probably even more so we most likely won't see any change in our lifetime because it is so gradual. But, I can tell you that humans are getting taller, a couple of hundred years back I doubt you could find some one 7'1".
     
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    we never evolved from apes. they are just there.
     
  12. kingcraigj

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    when ever i think of stuff liek this it makes me rally confused, what ever made us, who made it? and if the big bang happend how could nothing all of a suden explode into what we ahve today? :rofl:

    we will find live, its just a matter of time, even if the live form is just maybe a single cell thing, but that is how we started.

    i really want to belive that we will deicover how to do real magic, that would just be amazing.

    i think we will star haveing things like star wars and all that type of stuff. but not in my life time. ( it would be amazing if it was but it wont be).
     
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    There is evidence of humans evolving from apes such as lucy, who they estimate lived about 3.5 million years ago who could walk upright and by the fossils they found of her they can put together about 70 percent of her skeleton and had "modern" hands. She was at a stage between apes and humans. Please explain to me how that is not evolution....

    On a side note Evolution is a theory that is just as strong as the cell theory. The Darwinian theory of evolution has had thosands of experiments to try and prove it wrong , but none have succeeded. The reason some people do not believe in the theory is because they already have an explanation of how we came here(adam & eve).
     
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    ye i belive in god, and i also belive in some parts of my relgion, but i think alot of it was there to stop people from welll.. the bible is more like a rule book, if you did wrong you went to hell, if you where a good person you go to a eternal paridise.

    and that used to scare people, people fear things they can't see EI the died.
     
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    To touch on evolution.. What the hell do you think we've done in the past 100 years?! We've gone from The Industrial Revolution to now the Space Age... We've gone from big machines, to computer chips the size of a finger nail... Isn't that evolution of the mind? isn't that expand our knowledge?!
     

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