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Discussion in 'Gaming' started by .Artificial I, Feb 13, 2007.

  1. xlink

    xlink GR's Tech Enthusiast

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    as a matter of philosophy, if you're buying a PC with money from a loan and it's not generating you money, you probably shouldn't be buying it.

    and again, Dell is not top of the line and the industry acknowleged that.
    just google 'dell quality'
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=of...ity&btnG=Search
    (do the same search for HP, emachines etc. and while not overly positive, ti's not so detrimental)
    the only positive things about Dell's quality have nothing to do with their systems, they're about their ability to market, manage and move products.

    that's why Dell bought Alienware, because they were an industry leader... and since Dell bought them, I haven't heard of Alienware doing much of anything... before alienware used to be overpriced, but they had great quality and a lifetime warranty. They still are of about the same level of quality(they're builds are now somewhat cheaper and some internals are now lower tiered) but the warranty is now gone.

    effectively no tech-enthusiasts use Dell based PCs as their primary systems, unless they dedicate their 'good' system to something else like ln2 benchmarking, or F@H or something of the like.



    top of the line would be falcon northwest or voodoo.
    http://www.falcon-nw.com/
    http://www.voodoopc.com/omen.aspx

    and even then depending on how you look at it, they might be inferior as they are using low-tiered, low bined desktop CPUs as opposed to server class CPUs, same goes for RAM and harddrives.

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    on another note, no PC no matter how expensive will last 'forever' you get diminishing returns with the money spent, it's better to buy a system for half as much and to upgrade twice as often.

    example given, a $15,000 computer in 2000 consisted of dual 833mhz Pentium IIIs, 256mb RDRAM, and a GeForce TNT card along with a bunch of SCSI harddrives and a CD burner.

    the equivilent costs about 100 today and is considered to be ----.



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    and if I sound like I'm ragging too much on Dell, like it's some sort of vendeta... I don't care, they went from being decent and well respected within the industry, they had excellent warranties, tech support and had fairly high build quality for the money spend... to, CRAP. I'd say the nose dive took place right around 1999 as that seems to be when most of the hate sites start, before that I can pretty much only find praise(aside from Dell using proprietory PSUs, but that had been stadnard practice at the time) same goes based on the PCs at school. The older PCs are all Dells and they're still running after 8 years, the newer PCs which are also Dells and after 1.5 years about 1/4th of them have some sort of problem, three don't boot, and an unknown number suffer from poor stability(the one I was assigned couldn't pass Super Pi 1m without a system hangup and restart) I also talked to the tech coordinate at the school and he's noticing the same thing, about 90% of the older Dells were still running after 8 years(and apparently a good chunk of those not running were stripped for parts to upgrade other PCs)

    admittedly their laptop division has better quality controll than their other divisions
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    but apparently that's not saying a ton
     
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    If you go get a dell, against every users advice, I swear to god, if you come here saying it got ----ed, I'll laugh my ass off at you.
     
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    You want to spend your loan money on an overpriced and oversspecced Dell? Why?

    As you increase the amount you are willing to pay on a computer, you reach a point where no matter how cheap the parts are, the purchase will be a mistake.

    For instance, (depeding on how memory intensive the processes you run on your computer are) if you buy 4gb of RAM, 2 sticks of that will hardly get used.

    There is a similar argument against just about every other component you've selected. It's just not worth it!
     
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    DELLS suck

    I would know
     
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    one of my friends had to reformat every month because his dell kept screwing up on him haha
     
  6. xlink

    xlink GR's Tech Enthusiast

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    I will note that the most likely part to fail on Dells would eb the pwoer supplies(which often take other parts with it) and that the XPS 710 has an acceptable PSU. It's just at that price point you should be getting a tier 1 or a high-end tier 2 PSU, not a 3rd tier PSU
     
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    you sir are spending money, for nothing. Ive ran my own spec tests at tech school(cisco networking class) SLI is not that big of a deal, most gfx cards now a days can do what it does by themselves, your just wasting money.

    Liquid Cooling? Hah, when you have a leak and all your pretty little expensive parts go to ----, ill laugh at you. Oh Sure, its nice but its not a neccesity.

    I find it amusing that people are going out and spending every penny they have on these new computer parts. When most of your software isnt even capable of harnessing that power. A perfect example is 64 Bit, go find me 10 names of software products that someone would use every day.

    While hardware is expanding at a lightning fast speed, software isnt capable of harnessing that much power. Because coding is still an art.
     
  8. BTK

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    dharmesha13 your not telling the truth

    i just went to dell.com and configured the XPS 710 H2C the exact same way you did with

    intel quad core 6700(factory overclocked)
    Dual nVidia 8800gtx
    4gb ram at 667MHz 4 dimms
    2x 160 GB 10,000 rpm hardrives
    20.1 inch dell ultrasharp monitor
    Sound Blaster X-FI Extrem Music
    Liquid Cooling system
    Logitech G15
    Logitech G5
    3year in home service
    1k power supply
    and a case with lights
    7-slot BTX design motherboard

    and the total price was $5,704.00 not $4000 like you said =/

    you can build a MUCH better pc for 6k from newegg

    go learn about pc's come back and build

    sorry to break your bubble but dells SUCK no matter what one you buy that goes for alienware also
     
  9. johndapunk FTW

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    His mom is a Dell employee, she probably gets a discount.
     
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    I had a emachines pc at first but it went up I guess now I have a PC which is the best. :)
     
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    I have a Dell. I like it for the most part but I really want a new comp and I probably wouldn't buy another Dell.
     
  12. dharmesha13

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    Hahahah BTK u didnt know that my mom is a Dell employee that gets 30% offf all sony,dell and IBM merchandise????? The dell XPS 710 is 5700 to teh normal buyer...but to me its just 3800,and thats the only reason im getting the best of the best because i can get it cheaper,instead of buying a build from newegg with no discount...


    P.S if i were to buy a backup computer in 2008.could i just take one of the gtx's from my pc and put it into another when a friend comes over to play games..then return it safely?
     
  13. xlink

    xlink GR's Tech Enthusiast

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    you could...

    but you realize that within 10 months the 8800s will be worth half as much due to G87(which is more or less a stright die shrink with improved clock speeds and lower power consumption)

    SLi is a waste in this case unless you dropping a few K on a very high resolution monitor. 1680*1050 will be maxed out by a single 8800, two is just spending money to drive up your power bill.
     
  14. johndapunk FTW

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    Considering your large discount, I wouldn't advise against getting a Dell, just I advise you get more cost efficent products, such as the QX6600 instead of the QX6700, and only one 8800.
     
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    i have a Dell .

    A Dimension 9200 and loving it. With a 20" widescreen , 2 speakers and 1 woofer.

    Dr!ver.
     

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