Well howsa. I normally like doing videos and animations and such. was going to try and do something in PS again and realized I lost all brushes,patterns and textures from a near fatal viral attack in Dec. So, I went to C4d to make a scene to render an image. I saw a terminator scene and tried to remake it using the TOS BSG Cylons. it is close, added a building and a smashed/melted vehicle and another Centurion. I used Billy Home's Centurion, though Re-material ed and gun re-textured,added lights.And David Kerin's Cylon Raider models. 100% C4d 3d- Nice I can animate and video this