Disagree. It's not natural not to have sex, it's actually against our natural instincts to not have sex. I'm not saying have sex with everyone, I've clarified that. But it is a basic human impulse and there's nothing wrong with satisfying it as long as you're not idiotic about it.
ohrite ye mi bad lulz I only read the first few words of it and assumed it would be boring. Yay for casual sex.
I didn't say sex wasn't a natural urge. I know it is a natural urge. However, the great thing about being human is we can learn to control those urges. It is not wrong to control sexual urges. In-fact when it comes to serious relationships before marriage it is wise to not engage in sex due to all the emotions, problems and risks involved. That is all I am saying. Like I said before I was speaking from experience. He wanted our opinions so I thought a personal one would be good to show. But there is a problem. We obviously have a lot of people that are responding to this that have absolutely no experience with sex except through their fantasies and what they find on the web. If he wants good advice I would ask his parents and if you are religious, your religious leaders as well. Like I said before, my advice is to control those urges and save it for marriage, doing this will benefit you more greatly and you will have a greater appreciation for love and your own personal self control. You have done it for 19 years so far what is a few more?
And how does that disqualify my opinion? Just because you disagree with me? So morality isn't valid in the world anymore because you say it is? So my 9 years more experience than you makes no difference? The fact that I have gone through this issue time and time again disqualifies me because I am not in with the young crowd? What do you not believe that you can control natural urges? Have you ever even tried to control them? Like I said, "We obviously have a lot of people that are responding to this that have absolutely no experience with sex except through their fantasies and what they find on the web." You are obviously one of these people. Since you have no sense of real life and real emotions. You are so far in your fantasy world that basic human moralities have left you. You can control your urges and make choices on those urges. Also when you do get married it is not all about sex. You have to give yourself to that person and no one else. If they don't want it then you have to abstain or it could result in a bad situation. Human beings have "evolved" the ability to make choices on their own not by simple instinct and primal urges but to think through things and make a decision. This is called intelligence. So no my ideas are not invalid. Sorry if I intimidate you with my real life experiences. I am sorry but that is just how things normally happen. A great man once said, "those who don't learn from their own mistakes are stupid, those who don't learn from others mistakes are a fool."
Don't worry about what GP says he is just pissed off that he can't come up with an intelligent retort.
1. What emotions, problems and risks? 2. Where do these go once you are married? A bit of paper does not change your mentality. I hate to take the same route as GP here since he is obviously a retard virgin who doesn't know what he is talking about but I cant quite follow your point either. If you're one of those no-sex-before-marriage people, I dont care, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I respect your choice. Just curious as to your reasons.
Alrighty. Let's start off with "Only experience except through fantasies." Although that might fit in your little picture, it's wrong. So don't start making assumptions. Like I said before, my advice is to not wait for marraige. People have a modern delusion that as soon as you're married any emotional ties to sex vanish, since...when? What about the couples that never intend to get married? What about gay couples? (The social bond thing, nah). Again people need to drop this mentality that sex comes with all this huge baggage, "emotions, problems and risks involved". Again, as long as you're safe about it there's practically no risks, and any risks that DO exist are still going to exist when you marry that person, Marraiage does not instantly make sex safe. Getting married to someone isn't going to instantly make you enjoy sex more, why should a little slip of document be the only reason you do something that makes both you and your partner happy. Honestly, by being celibate you force your own poorly-judged misconceptions on your partner too, who, if they aren't celibate, may as well look else where. Sex doesn't have all the emotional ties either, again (again) I'm not justifying one night stands with everyone you can get your hands on, yes, sex can be a big deal and lead to a break-down in a relationship. So can everything, I mean, the VAAAASSSSTTTT majority of marraiges break down completely, or at least at one point, even those where people wait for sex until they are in the marraige, because, you know why? It doesn't make a ------ing difference except the bible says to do it. Then on to the, marraige, give yourself to that person and no one else. Invalid point, you do that before you get married. But oh, I loved your final quote. Sex IS NOT A MISTAKE. It's normal, not everyone in the planet sleeps around and gets pregnant before their 16th birthday, not every guy on the planet is going to catch an STD/STI. I know I know, you're rebuttal will be "Supress natural urges", but why should we? Anybody who plays basically any computer game is giving in, at least partly, to their natural urges. Anyone who watches a film over 15, is again, essentially giving in to natural urges. And again, I'm not saying give in completely and sleep with anyone, but if you can't control yourself to that point you shouldn't be having sex anyway, in or out of marraige. Being with someone you love, or, you're starting to, before you get married is fine. Sexual compatability is a huge thing in a relationship, ask any married couple and if you wait until you're married to find out you hate each other in bed then that's one more reason to add your marraige to the list of failed ones. PS : Don't bring morals in to this, sex before marraige isn't wrong in any moral sense except a book says not to do it.
I don't think you can discount those people from the argument; they are potentially nearly 80% of the population of the US. Not getting too much into my personal situation, my current relationship is surprisingly heavily governed by that book (and not because of me). For that reason...well you can guess. You have to respect religious people's views.
I'm not disrespecting anyones religious views, and of course peoples ideas and how they act in their relationship are going to be affected by their religion. However, not everyone is religious and bringing "Morals" in to the discussion is taking it away from where it should be. No problem with religion, but I don't like being told my "Morals" are wrong, when they aren't.
