Can We Really Call This ''pro''?

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  1. Flamesy

    Flamesy Well-Known Member

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    Who the ---- am I? Who cares ....

    Upon my return to the GR graphics Industry I have noticed people no longer judge sigs the old system but instead class a sig by level, eg, Semi Pro/ Pro. But really what I'm ranting about is the useage of C4D renders in sigs to supp them up and make them look Uber Sexi.

    As most people who use these do not make them themselves in Cinema 4D I don't see how anyone could possibly claim that tag their own by using someone elses work and slapping it into a tag to make it look better. Basically, you might as well go to DA and pick a random piece of digital art and stick it on your tag in ''Lighten'' to make it look good....

    Does anyone honestly feel credited in any way from using someone elses work to make yours look better? I really can't see how people can be classed as ''Pro'' when they have numerous CRD render OTHER PEOPLE have made in their tag.

    I have never ever never stuck a C4D in any of my work, because I feel like I'm just ripping someone. I know people make these for free use which is nice but I don't think anyone who uses C4D another person has made can be called Pro or even Semi pro. Some tags these days just have 5 C4Ds, which other people have made, and a stock with some text, Semi-Pro? What? Pro is when you achieve something original, good on the eye, perfect balance and alot of time and effort. Not some C4Ds and a Stock ..

    Note: I am fully aware that not everyone who is rated at this level uses these, I am just using some people I have witnessed in my eyes.

    End of rant.

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  2. Phili G

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    im 'guilty' of using c4d in the tag below. still sucks though :)


    but i had to manipulate it so much i might as well just used the pen tool :(
     
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    Yup I find plenty of alternatives to using C4D to make a tag look up. :)
     
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    i only use my own c4d's pretty fun to make them
     
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    Too right and kudos to you for making your own. I think tags with C4D implemented generally turn out awesome, so I'm all for using it if you made the C4D renders yourself. :)
     
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    its the same for stocks really, you didnt take the phot, your not in the photo DONT USE IT!!
     
  7. yesterdays fiction

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    I largely agree with Flamesy.
    You get losers going. "yeah I use every tutorial there is and buy my way to get good in photoshop" "Now i'm classes as pro"
    WHat the F--- Is pro!?!?
    It's art you are making, you cannot rate but, just have an opinion!

    *takes deep breath*
     
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    *takes hat off and applausses* I cant agree with you more!
     
  9. BadKillerX

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    I agree with you 100%.

    I use filters and default only :). I have tried to create a sig with c4d but didn't like it. So i stick with my old stuff(filters,default only)

    Same goes for brusges. People download them make stuff and call them self pro.

    :censored:
     
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    I love c4ds, and make my own... They look ----, i can admit my c4d's suck. But when played with in a sig they look great. if somone edits a c4d enough i think it is cool.

    I dont allways use my own photography to edit, but in my photo manips that use photography most of them are my photo's edited.
     
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    Thanks for the response. I disagree that using stocks is the same, because we do not just use these purely for ''effect'' it is just a base or the primary object in your tag. I'm not trying to portray that using stocks or downloaded text is making your tag ''not your own work'' but mainly C4Ds.


    I think people who use ''Defaults'' deserve more credit as not only does this take more talent and imagination, but there is only so much limited to do so if you can create a good, original look then you should be classed as ''pro''.


    I completely echo the sentiments of SM Rush, art is all based on opinion.
     
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    please answer my pm trance!
     
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    Pssh i dont really care about ratings anymore. now only way you can be ranked pro is by doing what everyone else is doing. Thats why i usually dont care if a tuts rated "pro" or "utter noobtastic" as long as it looks good it doesnt matter what its rated
     
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    Thats why Iam getting C4D tomorrow.
     
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    there are no pro's on GR end of story unless you are making a living off your artwork and if ppl wanna use other ppl's C4D renders who really cares why worry about it. Using C4D renders is whored to death at this point anyway. People are gonna do what looks nice even if its an easy way to get a nice outcome. The problem here on GR ppl actually give a sh!t what other ppl think about their work and just make stuff to make credits and dont make stuff that they like themselves
     

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