Building A New Pc

Discussion in 'Gaming' started by Zohair, Sep 14, 2008.

  1. Zohair

    Zohair Formerly zohBOT

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    Here is what I think I will get, actually I am sure as I've looked into each part for about 30 minutes and read the reviews, now I want your opinions about it and please tell me if any of the following would not be compatible with the other part or would make a problem, conflict.

    All prices are from New EGG [dot] com, you may also suggest your own parts/etc...

    ASUS P5Q --- LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
    8-Phase Power Optimize Stable Overclocking CrossFireX - $139.99

    PNY VCG88512GXEB-FLB GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
    Bonus copy of Frontlines: Fuel of War included - $110.99

    Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail - $169.99

    CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail - $84.00

    SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe - OEM - $27.99

    Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM - $74.99

    Computer Case for Cool system - $90.00 - $120
     
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    I wouldn't use a SATA HD. Granted they are faster, but it is still new technology and has a lot of issues. I had one in my last PC I built and I had to wipe it and reinstall the OS. But a SATA HD requires drivers that need to be installed to the chipset (which also got wiped) so when I rebooted, my computer didn't see a HD (which makes installing an OS a little hard)
     
  4. xlink

    xlink GR's Tech Enthusiast

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    looks solid zohair you should have no hassles with something like that.
    just make sure to get a solid power supply
    if by newer tech you mean over 5 years old and supported on every operating system still commercially available without any additional hassles, then you are correct.

    yes windows XP without SP1 does need additional drivers installed... guess what though... that's no longer able to be bought. nor is XP in general able to be purchased. vista natively supports it. winserver 03 supports it. winserver 08 supports it. Mac OSX supports it. Pretty much ever linux distribution supports it. Most of BSD supports it. solaris supports it. Most every modern OS(read made within the last 5 years) supports it as hassle free as the older PATA drives
     
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    Looks good. P45 boards are great. 620fsb on my EP45-EXTREME is nothing to be sneezed at.

    By the way, on continuation with what Clash was saying,

    Don't buy a dual core. They're still dangerous new technology, and have a habit of going Large Hadron Collider on you, which sucks your PC into a black hole, meaning you have to go out and buy a new one. XD
     
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    Zohair Formerly zohBOT

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    Thanks mate, actually I was thinking of changing the Core2Duo with Core2Quad processor. Would you guys recommend that? As for the Memory, I guess I will buy the one you suggested rather than the Corsair.

    Now thanks everyone but I do not understand why people are complaining about the SATA HDDs? I can go for an IDE drive and I don't mind but as Xlink is saying, maybe it only has issues with older versions of OS?

    Anyway, I will keep on reading this thread and look at what you people suggest.
     
  7. xlink

    xlink GR's Tech Enthusiast

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    if you're doing a lot of things like rendering, consider a quad. if you're goal is gaming or general use, don't bother there's no real benefit here and now and by the time there is you can sell your dual core CPU and get a quad for pretty dang cheap anyway. if you're doing a lot of highly threaded things then there might be justification then. It's the same as when dual core CPUs came out(but this time the disparity is greater as you get diminishing returns), the benefit for most things just wasn't there and all you got was a hotter running CPU and more out of pocket costs.
     
  8. Zohair

    Zohair Formerly zohBOT

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    Okay then! Lets see, this means all I have to change in that list is the RAM which RA suggested and I have added a Sound card to the list (Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music Sound card 24-bit). Hope that is all I need? Also the prices and compatibility is fine? The Graphic card is good? Do I need cooler systems for this PC and a new PSU?
     
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    you'd want a PSU if you don't have a good one already. IMO pretty much everything corsair has out right now is VERY competitively priced and is of EXCELLENT quality so if you're too lazy to do bargain hunting you can't really go wrong there. IMO corsair has better PSUs than RAM.

    if you're looking to cut some costs and you're willing to overclock
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...2&Tpk=e5200

    this CPU is typically with within 5% of the performance/Mhz of the e8500 it has a 12.5 multiplier and it should hit close to 4Ghz fairly easily.

    that means you need 320FSB to hit 4Ghz. 320 FSB is nothing and the price is RIGHT. $90 for a 45nm chip that's dumping intel must be desperate to clear inventory before the launch of Core i7. The money saved can later be applied to getting a Core 2 quad for $50 if you ever need it. And yes they'll be that cheap by the time dual core CPUs are obsolete.


    as far as CPU coolers go, if you're willing to go for a little bit of overkill
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835887011

    if not then
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835186134
     
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    Posting on here too, eh Zohair?
     
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    if you get a Corsair PSU get it from buy.com their prices are cheaper than newegg's
     
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    The thing is, I don't know how to OC, I really don't have a tiny bit idea of what Overclocking is except that it makes your PC faster (I know, I R nubz) so don't you think I should go for a Quad Core rather than a Core2Duo and btw, I don't mind the costs :tongue: as long as I am going to make this dream PC of mine. I should go for the first one you suggest as for the cooling system/fan. Also, you're recommending Corsair RAM and PSU eh? 350 Watts enough?

    Oh yeah, this PC is going to one hell of its kind! xD

    Is that true mate? I'll go have a look, do they also offer same shipping rates as NE (newegg.com)?
     
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    A CPU's speed, in hertz, i.e. 4ghz, is made up by a few numbers. These are your FSB, and your multiplier.

    The current gen of CPU's (barring the Core2 Extremes and some of the "overclock" intended models such as the E7200), have an FSB of 1333mhz. This number is actually four times what we work with, so for all intents and purposes, the CPU's have an FSB speed of 333. The multiplier does exactly what the name implies. It multiplies the FSB to get our final clock speed in hertz.

    333 times 9 = 2.9GHz
    333 times 8 = 2.6GHz

    What overclocking does, is it increases the FSB speed. Say we pushed it to 400 FSB, with a 9 times multiplier

    400 times 9 = 3.6GHz. Voila! Overclocking.
     
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    Zohair Formerly zohBOT

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    Ahan! So that is what its all about! Mate, I have to admit... That is one of the best detailed answers about OC that I've got in my life! Thank you so much.. =]

    W-O-W! Simply awesome. That means I might as well be getting other items (if I get them cheap at buy.com) from there too. That is very helpful RA! I appreciate that mate, thanks!
     

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