the dare to be creative quote you are taking up reffers to desigining. and how can i spice up my approach when it comes to theese issues? wtf are you? stupid? debating is the only way to reach people, bombing buildings will get to people, but in a negative way. christians have experienced that
You don't exactly reach people with your methods. You're not a people person are you? Because when I seen the video, I took it as a joke that was poorly organized. No one religous will want to debate with you if they already think you don't know what you're talking about. Just my input
yea i agree. the only thing this video is showing is all the bad things that came from religion, when in truth the people created the bad things, not the religion. Honestly all the bible talks about is peace. People have read the bible and thought they must have to force people to believe in this and if they don't they should kill them. The bible never talks about forcing anybody to believe in anything. God gave them free will to do what they wish, but in the end if they didn't believe in the 1 true god and do good things they would go to a bottomless pit of non existence. People have taken this the wrong way thinking that they should be the judge and they should condemn them. When in truth god is the judge. Religion did not do this it was the influence the devil (evil force) has over humans. you really cant be a critic of religion unless you read the text. 90% of so called christians havent even read the whole bible. and 99% of bible critics haven't read 1 book of the bible.
"Honestly all the bible talks about is peace." have you read the bible? the old testament is filled with pretty messed up things, and is things none should do in soceity today. Circumcision, jihad and other messes up shiat is ONLY because of religion. you suggest christianity is not imposed? well, i would say to the contrary that it is. what have you been told by christians for centuries? that if you reject this offer of eternal life in heaven etc? you will go to hell! this havent been preached to children? by gruseome elderly virgins backed by force? this has'nt poisoned soceities???
honestly the bible never talks about a fiery hell, in the old testament the only reference to fire in shoel is it has the flame of jah forever, and eternal torment in revelation.But it has more than 20 references to hell,sheol,guihana being a place where god isnt there . i have read the old testament, and these jews only punished the people who lived among them who did wrong things. The new testament tells yo to reject moses' old teachings and only do good. seriously dude where are you getting your information. The internet?lol
He obviously gets it from the media. Anyone who knows anything about jihad can tell you it translates to "inner struggle" which has to do with a person's inner struggle to do good. Stop letting the news educate you, kid.
seriously i dont understand why your trying to prove religion to be bad -john lennon if you let the media educate you, then you never get to decide for yourself what you really believe in.
i dont get it from the media, i get it from fellow atheists, like hitchens, proffessor in history, im pretty sure he knows what he is talking about. read his book where he slaughters mother theresa, the catholics dont even reject the facts, just tries to twist them. he is one of the smartest people in the world. its funnu how ALL the intelectuals are atheists, while the lower degree stupid people are religious.. hmmm and fiveoh, my "faith" was not something i got out from the media or something low like that, i found it out myself. when my grandmother died it was pretty clear, that it is not higher power or celectials controlled justice, its just us and thats about it
sounds like simple thinking to me. im not here to make you think a different way, i only commented on how dumb the video is. I'm done talking about something that is impossible to prove either way.
So basically, you just get it from a fellow of your athiest friends, wow that totally sounds not bias. If you actually wanted to learn anything, you would educate yourself, and not let others have to explain to you, which is just weak. See if you actually studied any sort of religion and delve deep into it, you would know what jihad is, you would know what circumcision is about. But since that has yet to happen, you come trying to debate with basic stuff. No one wants to debate with someone who clearly is not versed in theology.
well, it IS education when facts is presented right? i watch ALOT of educational programs, like penn and teller and shiaz. i LEARN from them , i dont need to read a book and get a degree on everything, i just need to learn the basics. and circumsision is pointless, its just a jewish tradition which have gotten more and more popular for a reason unknown, it is NOTHING different from the circumsision of young girls in africa, something americans protested alot. but in america itself the most of the circumsisions are done, that seems strange huh? jihad is religious nutcases beeing brainwashed by religious fanatics taking texts too litterary. i DO NOT BELIEVE that a sane human beeing would fly planes into the twin towers, why would they do that if not for the godly and the promise of eternal life and 72 virgins in heaven? And Anything pink, when you educate, dont you have people explaining to you? haha, you are a stupid little fellow arent you? that is what education is dumbass
1 - He is correct, nearly every war ever started was caused by religion in some way, shape or form. Your 'God' currently is the most ruthless ruler in all history, totaling up more kills than every single recorded dictator, murderer and any other form of terminology capable of explaining one whom has killed numerous people (this extends as far as generals in armies doing service for their country, etc.). To put it into perspective, Hitler and Stalin combined would need to be multipled tens of times (nearing 100x +) to even remotely compare to the deaths even mentioning in the bible in the name of your 'God'. 2 - The old testament IS filled with hate, prejudice, discrimination, bias, and numerous other qualities that you so conveniently seemed to look over. This ranges from deaths, to wars, to killing innocent people out of suspicion, the old testament may as well be an extended version of the Salem with trials. 3 - The bible never gives any definition of Hell, except that hell is a place where God does not exist. It is explained that Hell is simply the non-existance of God. There is no talk of bottomless pits, demons, flaming tar pits, etc. The only clear definition mentioned is that Hell is a place without God, and the only place of such comparison. Fire and brimstone and demons ripping flesh from your bones, etc. is all modern culture and the media playing with you. 4 - God gave everyone free will, he also made the choice obvious. Believe in me, or go to Hell. That would be like me coming in one day, like the April Fool's takeover and stating, 'either you follow me and my beliefs perfectly, or I will ban you for all eternity' only on a much lesser extent. The choice is obvious, as it is human nature to be selfish and want the better things for ones self. As an individual, I was forefully raised Christian. As such, I have also read and studied nearly every other major religion with a holy script available in English and quite a few minor religions (when I speak of this I speak of cult like things you wouldn't find in a book store, you find them via local associations, etc.) in an effort to expand my knowledge of the worlds religions and understand them as a whole to better make my personal decision. This is why I am an Agnostic Christian as I explain myself. I have the typical Judeo Christian morals (or Greco Roman, whichever you prefer), I am a traditionalist as I was raised that way, but I do not believe in God, simply a god. It is... stupid to say the least to believe that there isn't a greater power, even by scientists definitions it would be stupid to nto agree with the least bit of creationalism. I would encourage anyone to read as many other holy scriptures you can in order to best judge your personal beliefs. However, some people will say looking into other religions opens up the demons from said religions (generally religious fanatics who are so loopy anyways will state this) and thus you are opening yourself up to all of the worlds hate, its problems, etc. Frankly I think thats BS, and I think a wealth of knowledge and understanding occurs when you have studied multiple religions (you would be surprised as to how close nearly every major world religion is, they almost all have the same basic beliefs). Regarding why your stupid... take a look at your posts, you aren't stating anything factual, your arguing with opinions and false evidence, you made a video full of random images with no significant meaning hoping to change religious individuals beliefs.. do you really need me to break that all down and explain how in each way you are retarded? Also... Also, circumcision started as a religious belief, it is used today in modern societies because it is cleaner. Circumsized penises are less likely to become infected with the bacteria in urine, they are easier to clean, and overall they are a cleaner thing, it has very little true religious meaning to anyone anymore within the US. The reason it became so prodominant here is because it is a Jewish belief, and Christianity is largely a counterpart to Jewish belief and in case you may really just be this ignorant, Christianity is the leading religion in the US.
