while an AM2 proc using DDR2 800 memory won't perform much better than one using DDR1 500 memorym there is something to be said about them as the prices on DDR2 are gradually comoing down and there is a possibility of DDR3 support... http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=31842 I'm also hearing about a may 23rd release date... hey it's may 23rd in australia... i don't know about anyone else, but that sempron 3000+ is looking awfully attractive... just a slight increase in clock speed and... well, actually a major increase...
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2442 AMD's desktop platform get a major overhaul It is official, tomorrow is the day AMD will finally announce the AM2 platform for desktop processors. AMD originally had plans to launch the chipset on June 6, 2006, but shortly after the announcement that Intel's Core 2 Duo processor would launch at the same time, AMD bumped the launch date up to May 23, 2006. AMD's AM2 platform consists of a new socket and pin-out for AMD's desktop processors. AM2 uses 940-pins, just like the existing Socket 940, but the the new pin-out means PGA-ZIF AM2 and PGA-ZIF Socket 940 processors are not compatible. The major difference between AM2 processors and Socket 939/940 processors is the migration from DDR1 to DDR2. Since the introduction of the K8 architecture in 2003, AMD has opted to place the memory controller on its entire line of desktop, mobile and server processors. As a result, new AMD processors do not need complete motherboard revamps, but motherboard manufacturers still have to accommodate for much denser DDR2 pin-outs. DDR2 was first introduced by Intel in June of 2004 when the company migrated from Socket 478 to Socket 775. At the time, the cost premium between DDR2-533 and DDR1-400 was vast, and performance differences between DDR2 and DDR1 were virtually non-existent. The cost of DDR2 has dropped dramatically in the last two years, but the important thing about the AM2 launch is that AMD's AM2 processors will support DDR2 speeds in excess of DDR2-800. Coupled with the NVIDIA SLI memory initiative, we can realistically expect to see memory frequencies in the 1GHz range with AM2. AM2 is a unified platform, meaning high end Athlon 64 dual-core processors, low end single-core processors and everything in between uses the same socket design. Previously, AMD split its desktop offerings over three separate platforms, Socket 940 for the ultra high end, Socket 939 for midrange and Socket 754 for low end. This division of platforms severely hampered manufacturer ability to produce competitively priced motherboards. AM2 processors will also carry all the trimmings one would expect to find -- SSE/2/3 and MMX support, Cool n' Quiet power management, EVP "data only" no-execute bits and AMD's Pacifica Virtualization technology. AM2 will launch with 90nm SOI components only, but the company has already released roadmaps to produce 65nm SOI Brisbane processors by the end of the year. AMD's next major processor architecture after AM2 will be K8L, which was also just recently announced. NVIDIA, ATI, SIS and VIA all have AM2 chipsets scheduled to launch with AM2. Existing core logic will work with AM2, as evidenced by the number of motherboard manufacturers building nForce 4 AM2 motherboards. However, most manufacturers are opting for next generation instead. NVIDIA plans to launch several chipsets tomorrow, including nForce 590 and nForce 570. ATI's RD580 will also make an appearance on the AM2 platform, with RD550 close by. VIA's K8T890 will be the dominant VIA Northbridge for AM2, and manufacturers already expect several models to ship this week or next. The existing 939-pin Athlon and Sempron processors will continue to hold some channel presence, but AMD roadmaps have already shown the company plans to phase out Socket 939 in favor of Socket 754 as a DDR1 solution. AMD is also beginning to phase out Socket 940 in favor of LGA DDR2 Socket F, which is expected to ship this July. AMD claims processors and motherboards should be available tomorrow, but most tier one motherboard manufacturers expect availability in early June instead to coincide with the original launch date. Pricing for the new chips was revealed several weeks ago, which is still available on DailyTech here. Just last week, AMD announced a lineup of Energy Efficient (EE) Socket AM2 processors. The Energy Efficient AM2 processors are designed specifically for low-noise, low-heat systems -- which include AMD's Live! platform expected to launch on May 31st. AM2 EE processors carry a small premium over standard AM2 processors, but run at very low voltages. We've previewed a few AM2 motherboards on DailyTech already; here are links to a few of them: Universal Abit KN9 SLI Gigabyte AM2 Motherboard Launch Schedule ASUS AM2 Motherboard Launch Schedule MSI AM2 Motherboards Epox AM2 SLI Motherboard EDIT: AM2 semprons for ALL http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/m...arch=socket+am2 and an AM2 motherboard... http://www.xpcgear.com/asusm2n32slid.html
the good news is that DDR2 666 offers an almost negligeable performance boost over DR400, and DDR2 800 offers compareable performance to DDR 500, so performance wise you don't loose out on much. the bad news is that AM2 is far more scaleabel towards the future and doesn't really cost anymore, furthermore, they anounced how long ago? it's your fault for not waiting... 24 hours... hah someone on the AMD forums was all pissed about it too... hah, try cancelling your order on newegg if possible.
more or less the diference between the cost fo the ram... AM2 official prices are within a few percent of neweggs 939 prices(slightly cheaper on the lowend and slightly higher on the high end) supply/demand though will probably make AM2 a few $ more...motherboards might be a little more expensive though... not entirely sure yet... too soon to tell...
im still surprised that amd has the audacity to keep the x2 3800+ at $300 when there will be a much better core 2 duo for around $215
in another month... I'm surprised intel has thwe audacity to charge $650 for a core duo when a much faster and cheaper opteron 165 exists... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16819111177
uhh... http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/1023_la...roe_pricing.jpg http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=1619
ok... so you're mentioning a product which isn't out yet... whereas the product I'm mentioning is technically uot... and K8L offers a 20% performance boost over conroe and has DDR3 support... i swear... AMD k20 is oo much better i can get a 20Ghz 128core proc for 5$ make a thread about conroe when it's out... I personally am considering a laptop based on merom, I'm selling my dream PC(for what I paid for it... hahahahaha) to fund such a laptop... that means for 1.5 months I'll be withotu a gaming PC, you knwo what though... I can survive...
xelink auction off your 165 separately. You will find it will get more than you paid for it because it overclocks really well. Try an overclocking forum that has a buy/sell/trade section and you will definately get back more money than you paid.
