Alienwares

Discussion in 'Gaming' started by [BlAdE], Jan 8, 2005.

  1. [BlAdE]

    [BlAdE] Well-Known Member

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    Should I get an alienware laptop or a desktop? Eh?
     
  2. SidewinderX

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    alienware is for gaming, from my experiance laptops arnt that great for gaming..wall at least vs desktops..with the desktop has better cooling and easier to upgrade in the future...go for the desktop!
     
  3. SniperX5

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    Yea But, You Can upgrade Laptops....Theres Just Not As Many Upgrades...I'm Looking In To A Aleinware Laptop Too.
     
  4. Gez

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    don't buy an alienware, just buy a load of parts and build your own comp, you can get it for so much cheaper. alienware just charge extra for the name
     
  5. SidewinderX

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    i agree with Gez...i built my own and got a lot more for a lot less ... if you have the moeny to get alienawre go for it...if you dont have the money and can build your own...do that ;)
     
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    its true i built my own and i think it probably runs faster and holds more games/programs on it.
     
  7. Bi0haZarD

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    like everyone else here i suggest you build your own desktop comp. I built mine for under 1,200 and its better then my friends alienware lol.
     
  8. PHASER8

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    Custom is the only way to go

    Case from http://www.xoxide.com
    Hardware from http://www.newegg.com

    My first custom was from http://www.ibuypower.com but when my dad gets the money I am going to go ENTIRELY custom. Total cost of it is at $2500 right now (damn expensive ATI graphics cards :D)

    Also spend some time researching if you are gonna go with a custom, make sure everything you want will work with everything else. There is no such thing as a 5 minute custom computer, the following took me 2 days of research and reviews to come to my conclusions. (Still got to shave off $700 or so somehow, dont know if thats possible






    Computer setup

    Case: Aspire X-SuperAlien Aluminum Mid-Tower (Blue) $99.99 @xoxide
    Fan controller: Super Flower Fan Master 4 Port Fan Controller [email protected]
    Second fan controller: Enermax UC-9FATR2 18-in-1 Multifunction Panel (Black) $46.99 @xoxide

    Cold cathode: Dual Blue Cold Cathode Kit $7.99 @xoxide
    Second cold cathode: Dual UV Cold Cathode Kit $7.99 @xoxide
    Third cold cathode: Dual Blue Cold Cathode Kit $7.99 @xoxide
    Lazer Led: Blue Lazer LED Light Kit $5.49 @xoxide
    Second Lazer Led: Blue Lazer LED Light Kit $5.49 @xoxide


    POWER SUPPLY
    Thermaltake Pure Power 480W PSU with Wattage Viewer $84.99 @xoxide

    IDE cable: 36" UV Sensitive Dual Device Round IDE Cable $4.99 @xoxide
    Secondary IDE cable: 36" UV Sensitive Dual Device Round IDE Cable $4.99 @xoxide
    Floppy cable: UV Sensitive Round 18" Floppy Cable $4.49 @xoxide
    Wire sleeving: Xoxide Wire Sleeving Kit (UV Blue) $8.99 @xoxide
    CARRY STRAP: Thermaltake Xaser III (Big Tower) XaserBag $21.99 @xoxide





    MOTHERBOARD/CPU SETUPS
    COMBININATIONS



    ****BEST****
    ASUS "K8V SE Deluxe" K8T800 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 754 CPU –RETAIL
    Model# K8V SE DELUXE Item # N82E16813131490
    Specifications:
    Supported CPU: Socket 754 for AMD Athlon 64 Processors
    Chipset: VIA K8T800 + VT8237
    FSB: Hyper Transport
    RAM: 3x DIMM for DDR400/333/266 Max 3GB
    IDE: 3x ATA 133(1 from Promise 20378) up to 6 Devices
    Slots: 1x AGP 8X, 5x PCI, 1x Wi-Fi
    Ports: 2xPS2,1xCOM,1xLPT,8xUSB2.0(rear 4),1xLAN,2x1394(rear 1),SPDIF Out,Audio Ports
    Onboard Audio: AD1980 6-Channel audio CODEC
    Onboard LAN: Marvell GbE
    Onboard SATA/RAID: VT8237, 2xSATA, RAID 0/1; Promise R20378, 2x SATA, RAID 0/1/0+1
    Onboard 1394: VIA VT6307, 2 Ports
    Form Factor: ATX
    $116 @newegg


    WITH
    AMD Athlon 64 3700+, Socket 754, 1MB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor - Retail

    Model# ADA3700BOX Item # N82E16819103464 Specifications:
    Model: AMD Athlon 64
    Core: ClawHammer
    Operating Frequency: 2.4GHz
    FSB: Integrated into Chip
    Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/1MB
    Voltage: 1.5V
    Process: 0.13Micron
    Socket: Socket 754
    Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW, 3DNOW! +
    Warranty: 3-year MFG
    Packaging: Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan)
    $468 @newegg
    ****BEST****




    ****SECOND BEST****
    MSI "K8T NEO2-F" VIA K8T800 Pro Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 939 CPU –RETAIL $98 @newegg
    WITH
    AMD Athlon 64 3500+, 512K, L2 Cache, Socket 939 Windows Compatible 64-bit Processor – Retail $271 @newegg
    ****Second best****
















    GRAPHICS CARD


    ****BEST****
    Sapphire ATI RADEON X800 XT Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-Bit, DVI/VIVO, 8X AGP, Model "581 102A26109" -OEM
    Model# 102A26109 Item # N82E16814102385
    Specifications:
    Chipset/Core Speed: ATI Radeon X800 XT/500MHz
    Memory/Effective Speed: 256MB GDDR3/1000MHz
    BUS: AGP 8X
    Ports: VGA out (15 Pin D-Sub) + VIVO + DVI
    Support 3D API: DirectX 9, OpenGL 2.0
    Max [email protected] Color: [email protected]
    OEM Package
    $650.50 – PROBABLY MUST BE BACKORDERED
    ****BEST****

    ****SECOND BEST****
    ASUS ATI RADEON X800 XT Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-Bit, DVI/VIVO, 8X AGP, Model "AX800XT/TVD/256" -RETAIL

    Model# AX800XT/TVD/256 Item # N82E16814121515
    Specifications:
    Chipset/Core Speed: ATI Radeon X800 XT/520MHz
    Memory/Effective Speed: 256MB GDDR3/1120MHz
    BUS: AGP 4X/8X
    Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub) + VIVO + DVI
    Support 3D API: DirectX 9, OpenGL 1.5
    Max [email protected] Color: [email protected]
    Cable/Accessories: 9 Pin S-Video to composite VIVO cable, 9 Pin S-Video to HDTV ( YPrPb) cable, DVI to VGA adaptor, Power Cable, Manual, Driver CD, Games
    Retail Box
    $559.50 @newegg -Another backorder
    ****SECOND BEST****

    ****Third best****
    Sapphire ATI RADEON X800 XT Platinum Edition Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-Bit, Dual DVI/VIVO, AGP 8X, Model "581PE" -OEM Bulk

    Model# 581PE Item # N82E16814102398
    Specifications:
    Chipset/Core Speed: ATI Radeon X800 XT PE/520MHz
    Memory/Effective Speed: 256MB GDDR3/1120MHz
    BUS: AGP 8X
    Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub) + VIVO + DVI
    Support 3D API: DirectX 9, OpenGL 2.0
    Max [email protected] Color: [email protected]
    OEM Bulk Package
    $499 @newegg- Say BACKORDER
    ****Third best****

    ****Fourth best****
    Sapphire ATI RADEON X800 XT Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-Bit, DVI/VIVO, 8X AGP, Model "102A2610400" -OEM Bulk
    Model# 102A2610400 Item # N82E16814102397
    Specifications:
    Chipset/Core Speed: ATI Radeon X800 XT/500MHz
    Memory/Effective Speed: 256MB GDDR3/1000MHz
    BUS: AGP 8X
    Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub) + VIVO + DVI
    Support 3D API: DirectX 9, OpenGL 2.0
    Max [email protected] Color: [email protected]
    Cable/Accessories: VIVO Cable, DVI to VGA adaptor, Power Cable, Driver CD, Software
    OEM Bulk Package
    $455.50 @newegg – meet BACKORDER
    ****Fourth best****



    ****LAST CHOICE****
    ATI RADEON X800 PRO Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP –RETAIL $409 @newegg – Wouldn’t suggest it
    ****Don’t get unless last choice ****


    MEMORY
    MUST BE EXACT, MOTHERBOARD PICKY ABOUT MEMORY

    Kingston 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 – Retail
    KVR400X64C3A/512
    (MUST BE EXACT MODEL #)
    Kingston 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - Retail

    Model# KVR400X64C3A/512 Item # N82E16820141424 Specifications:
    Manufacturer: Kingston
    Speed: DDR400 (PC3200)
    Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
    Error Checking: Non-ECC
    Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
    CAS Latency: 3-3-3
    Support Voltage: 2.6V
    Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
    Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit
    Warranty: Lifetime

    $69.83 @xoxide

    BUY THREE or TWO but NOT ONE

    Sound card *OPTIONAL*

    CHAINTECH 7.1 Channel PCI Sound Card, Model "AV-710" –RETAIL

    Model# CT-AV710 Item # N82E16829120103
    Specifications:
    Channels: 7.1
    Audio Processor: VIA ENVY 24PT
    Max Sampling Rate: 24-bit/192KHz
    PC Interface: PCI
    I/O Interface: Mic In/Line In/4 Line outs & Digital Optical Output, 2 separate CD audio stereo inputs
    Package Contents: See pics



    $25.00 @newegg

    FLOPPY
    SONY Black 1.44MB 3.5inch Floppy Disk Drive, Model MPF920, OEM
    Model MPF920, OEM
    Model# MPF920 Black Item # N82E16821103116
    Specifications:
    Capacity: 1.44MB
    Average Access Time: 94 ms
    Interface: 34 Pin Standard Floppy Connector
    Form: 3.5 inch
    Media Type: All Standard 1.44MB & 720KB 3.5 Floppy Diskettes
    Features: High Quality and Reliability
    Packaging: OEM

    $7.00 @newegg

    CDRW drive:
    ASUS 52X32X52 IDE Internal CD-RW Drive w/ QuieTrack Technology, Model CRW-5232AS QuietTrack, OEM
    Model# CRW-5232AS QuieTrack Item # N82E16827135027
    Specifications:
    Write Speed: 52X CD-R, 32X CD-RW
    Read Speed: 52X CD-ROM
    Interface: ATAPI / E-IDE
    Buffer: 2MB
    OS Support: Windows XP/2000/Me/98SE
    Features: FlextraLink and FlextraSpeed technologies
    Packaging: OEM Bundle
    $26.00 @newegg











    DVDRW drive:
    Plextor 16X Double Layer DVD±RW Burner with s/w and Black and Beige Bezels, Model PX-716A/SW, Retail

    Model# PX-716A/SW Item # N82E16827131338
    Specifications:
    Write Speed: 4X DVD+R DL, 16X DVD+R, 8X DVD+RW, 16X DVD-R, 4X DVD-RW, 48X CD-R, 24X CD-RW
    Read Speed: 48X CD-ROM, 16X DVD-ROM
    Interface: ATAPI / E-IDE
    Buffer: 8 MB
    OS Support: Windows XP/ 2000/ ME/ 98SE
    Features: Intelligent Recording technology supported for recording at high-quality and optimum speed
    Packaging: Retail box
    $146.99
    -$30.00 mail in rebate
    TOTAL $116.99


    Speakers
    CREATIVE Inspire P7800 7.1 Black Speaker System -RETAIL
    Model# 51MF7025AA000 Item # N82E16836116153
    Specifications:
    Configuration: 7.1
    Power Output: 90 Watts RMS
    Frequency Response: 40Hz - 20 kHz
    Signal to noise ratio: 80dB
    Remote: Wired
    Features: Auxiliary input, CMSS Up mix, Auxiliary input for easy connection to MP3 portable audio player.
    $85.99 @newegg





    Hard drives:


    #1: Western Digital 300GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, MODEL WD3000JB, OEM Drive Only
    Model# WD3000JB Item # N82E16822144391
    Specifications:
    Capacity: 300GB
    Average Seek Time: 8.9 ms
    Buffer: 8MB
    Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
    Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA100
    Features: High-Performance with 8MB Buffer
    Manufacturer Warranty: 1 year
    Packaging: OEM Drive Only

    $198.00 @newegg

    #2: Western Digital 300GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, MODEL WD3000JB, OEM Drive Only
    Model# WD3000JB Item # N82E16822144391
    Specifications:
    Capacity: 300GB
    Average Seek Time: 8.9 ms
    Buffer: 8MB
    Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
    Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA100
    Features: High-Performance with 8MB Buffer
    Manufacturer Warranty: 1 year
    Packaging: OEM Drive Only

    $198.00 @newegg


    #3
    Western Digital 300GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, MODEL WD3000JB, OEM Drive Only
    Model# WD3000JB Item # N82E16822144391
    Specifications:
    Capacity: 300GB
    Average Seek Time: 8.9 ms
    Buffer: 8MB
    Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
    Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA100
    Features: High-Performance with 8MB Buffer
    Manufacturer Warranty: 1 year
    Packaging: OEM Drive Only

    $198.00 @newegg


    MONITOR – CRT ONLY NO LCD’s

    ****Choice 1****BEST****
    SAMSUNG 1100DF-Black 21" DynaFlat CRT Monitor -RETAIL
    Model# 1100DF-Black Item # N82E16824001149
    Specifications:
    CRT Type: 21" (20" viewable), DynaFlat CRT
    Dot Pitch: 0.20mm horizontal
    Max / Optimal resolution: 2048x1536 @ 75Hz / 1280x1024 @ 85Hz
    Frequency / Bandwidth: fh: 30~121kHz; fv: 50~160Hz / 340MHz
    Input Connectors: 15pin D-Sub, BNC x5
    Features: OSD Lock/Unlock, Natural Color Software, Smart III screen treatment
    Dimensions & Weight: 19.8" x 19.7" x 20" (WxHxD), 61.6 lbs
    Manufacturer's Warranty / Phone No.: 3 year limited warranty on CRT, parts and labor / 800-726-7864

    $459.50

    ****Second best****

    SAMSUNG Sync Master 997DF-T/T 19" DynaFlat CRT Monitor -RETAIL
    Model# 997DF-T/T Item # N82E16824001166
    Specifications:
    CRT Type: DynaFlat CRT
    Dot Pitch: 0.20mm (H)
    Max / Optimal resolution: 1920x1440 @ 65 Hz / 1600x1200 @ 76 Hz
    Frequency / Bandwidth: fh: 30~96kHz; fv: 50~160Hz / 250MHz
    Features: DynaFlat, Magic Tune, Natural Color Pro
    Dimensions & Weight: 17.5" x 18.0" x 16.4" (WxHxD), 40.0 lbs
    Manufacturer's Warranty / Phone No.: 3 year CRT, parts and labor / 800-726-7864
    $195.99 @newegg :D )
     
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    Nice research there PHASER8,

    To be honest, the only reason you buy an Alienware PC is because you are an extreme gamer or you want to scare the staff at PC World by saying there is a problem with it ("So dude, how do you open this thing?").

    They're great computers, don't get me wrong. Their audience, however, evidently has an infinite source of money or stakes in a lucrative oil business (or maybe both?).

    I would recommend just buying computer components and putting them together yourself. It's much more interesting (I would say 'fun' but in my experience... well...) and if you have anyone to blame, its the inferior brand quality of your motherboard :)
     
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    alienwares are over ratted, build your own.
     
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    alienwares are way pricey and overated to me i think
     
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    i had a alienware ..its a very nice thing but way to expensive..so i suggest buying or developping a clone :rolleyes:
     
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    you could spend like half the money you would be spending for an alienware and get something that can match its specs. at local wholesale shows.
     
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    AlienWare sucks and they're over priced. We build our own comps so you could get the specs you want.
     
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    Alienwares are not overpriced for what they provide! they give you a legal OS! the best PSUs around at the moment (PCP&C) and top quality componetns, they don't skimp like other pre built systems, and they have great support!

    although if you do know how to build a system yourself go and do it.
     

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