2008 President?

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  1. APGunner

    APGunner Well-Known Member

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    You should probably change your post before people realize how retarded you sound. And is it really that difficult to spell out "you"? I mean it's two extra letters. As a matter of fact, you have a lot of spelling incorrections. And I am so bored right no I think i'll take it upon myself to fix them.

     
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    I can't see Hilary Clinton getting very many votes. she'd only get hardcore liberals..

    btw, i'd like to move to canada as well..i heard there are penguins.

    i think rice would be a good president, as long as she has a good staff behind her, but i don't think she is running right?

    ok, i can have my own opinion right? just like you can have your own opinion? don't act like i'm forcing my "beliefs" on you. i don't think killing someone should be personal choice. it's murder, and murder is against the law.
     
  5. 4N0NYM0U5

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    LMAO Dude you are hilarious. Ha I just want to read this stuff because of your comments.
     
  6. APGunner

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    lol laugh all u want idc what u think u'll just come crying to me after hillary has lost begging for me not to strike u down
     
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    Read the posts Dumbass... I said although I would like and support Hillary Clinton for president I do not believe that all the rednecks and stupid people like you would support electing a woman.

    and read my signature you got OWNED!
     
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    lol yea right i didn't get owned you just think i did.
     
  9. xlink

    xlink GR's Tech Enthusiast

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    An embryo does not have a concept of life nor is conscious of its environment unlike someone who is living, freethinking and conscious. The embryo is dependent on a host for survival...

    Fetuses are capable of surviving on their own outside a womb albiet not healthily. How many times have you heard of twins and triplets being born a few months prematurely. They don't turn out quite as well since they didn't have enough time and had to compete for resources(as opposed to having a monopoly on them) but they do in fact often survive into adulthood.

    A day or two might seperate ejecting a clump of cells apart from aborting a developing human being

    "Murder is the intentional killing of a human being by another. The penalty for murder is often life imprisonment, or in jurisdictions with capital punishment, the death penalty. It is generally viewed as one of the most atrocious crimes that can be committed, next to crimes against humanity"

    whether or not a piece of paper validates something as murder or not doesn't change whether or not it is.


    and for the record, my mother had a tubal pregnancy, had a rupture and nearly died from the toxins. An abortion saved her life at the expense of a fetus which had apparently died the day before the abortion had occured
    There is a difference between saving your life and killing your own offspring. A very large diference.
     
  10. 4N0NYM0U5

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    That is where the main issues between liberalists and conservatives lies. It is undecided at which point the fetus is too far developed to abort. Although I can argue forever over the topic we will make no progress in this thread because each has his own opinions on the issue. Yet I do agree with abortion I believe that past a certain point aborting a baby should not be legal.

    Back to the main point of the topic the next presidential election.
     
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    I've never seen a -rep so deserved as this one.

    Btw I don't watch CNN, I read books.
     
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    Obama FTW, I really want Barack Obama to win. It'd be such a cool change. ^_^
     
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    Personally, and much to my regret, I think Clinton will win it due to the massive amount of media hype and attention she is getting from her buddy Murdoch, who she's had weekly meetings with for years.

    If she became President, this would mean for the past 32 years America has either been ruled by a Bush or a Clinton. Bush senior refers to Bill Clinton as "his surrogate son".

    It really doesn't matter who you vote for, because exactly the same stuff will happen regardless. They are all puppets of the shadow government and military-industrial complex who rule behind the scenes and line their own pockets with Taxpayers money.

    As for sorting out the problems within the US as someone mentioned earlier, the biggest economic improvement which would have incredible and wide reaching benefits to all US citizens would be the destruction of the Federal Reserve Bank.

    The FED is not a part of the US government as many people believe or are unaware. It is in fact a corportation owned by a consortium of private banks. The Government borrows money from the FED to put into circulation. This money is borrowed at a premium and must be repaid with interest. As such the National debt that runs into the trillions can never be repaid under the current system. All your income tax goes to paying the Federal Reserve.

    On June 4, 1963, President John F. Kennedy issued Executive Order No. #11110. This E.O. gave the United States Treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." In plain English, this meant that for every ounce of silver held in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation. In all, Kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation. On the same day, he signed a bill, allowing $1 & $2 dollar bills to be backed by gold as well, thereby strengthening the dollars value.

    If enough of those notes had come into circulation, the Federal Reserve Bank of New York would have been put out of business. This is because these silver certificates issued by the US Treasury were backed by silver reserves held within the US Treasury. The Federal Bank notes that the US uses today - is backed by nothing! IE the Federal Reserve essentially prints money at leisure and loan it to the Government which must be paid back with interest. This has resulted in a national debt in the trillions, which can never be repaid under the current system and is a blackhole to the US economy.

    President Kennedy challenged the control of money by seeking to end the most successful vehicles that have ever been used to drive up debt - war and the creation of money by a privately-owned central bank. Kennedy wanted to have all troops out of Vietnam by 1965 and Executive Order 11110 would have severely cut into the profits and control of the New York banking establishment.

    5 Months after issuing Executive Order 11110, President Kennedy was assassinated. After his death, the United States Bank notes were withdrawn from circulation and none have ever been printed since, yet E.O. 11110 still stands as law to this day.

    If E.O. 11110 were envoked, the US national debt could be wiped out overnight by repaying the original amount that the US government borrowed from the Federal Reserve upon its establishment in 1913, which was a get out clause in the original agreement (which if memory serves me correct is $450 million).

    One has to ask oneself some serious questions as to why no President since then has ever made use of that Executive Order and removed the burden of debt from the nation to the benefit of millions of citizens?
     
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    People being "hicks" and "retards" have nothing to do with who those people vote for UNLESS they're biased little ----ers, which changes the situation quite drastically. If an informed voter doesn't vote for Clinton, it's because he or she doesn't agree with her, not because they're a "hick" or a "retard." Painting your opposition as such makes you sound uninformed (which you probably are) and twelve (which you're probably close to). It's quite a broad brush to paint a group of people with (seeing as more than half of the country voted for him. Twice.).

    As a side note, just because a candidate is of a minority or female does not mean that they are automatically the better candidate. I don't give a ---- if it's a dog in the White House so long as he or she does his job right and does what is best for the country.

    How well a president does is, again, in the eye of the person. No need to blindly bash Bush because you don't agree with him. That makes you just as:
    - Biased
    - Uninformed
    - Just as “stupid,” “retarded,” or “idiotic”
    as the opposition you so readily paint as such.

    Some you should look at where your views and morals stand before supporting or not supporting a person for president. If you agree with what Hillary or Obama say (that’s “say,” not “will”) they’ll do while in office, vote for them. Looking at a candidate’s voting record helps, as does his or her voiced support and position on certain issues.

    If you don’t agree with what Bush stands for, don’t vote for him. That’s about the most profound statement you can make against him, not voting for him. Painting the opposition as idiots and saying that anybody can do better is a mistake and makes you sound like children. Maybe you’ll understand when you start voting one of these days.

    As for those that want to jump the border to Canada if Hillary or Obama or anybody else that you don’t like wins, think about what you’re saying. That’s just plain stupid.
     
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    i guess im a faggot liberal now?
     
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