Most Of Congress Voted Yes To Aiding New Orleans..

51.8 Billion dollars were OKed by congress to be used in the relief of New Orleans after hurricane KATRINA...

HOWEVER... READ THIS CAREFULLY:

Did you see that there were 11 members who actually voted NO to aiding the people of New Orleans?! WTF Kinda crap is that?! I am trying to find out which people voted no, but I can't seem to find out that info most places.

However, I thought it was important to point out to you all the fact that there are people so completely heartless in public offices, they would actually vote NO to helping New Orleans in the situation it's in.


Please post your thoughts and feelings, and if you have any of the 11 names of who voted NO, please post those as well...

Best wishes to all with friends and family in the New Orleans area.




Read HERE for the full story this information was taken from
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationw...ack=1&cset=true


-Priest

 

They probably believed that 52 billion dollars was too much money. I don't really think it is but they might not be COMPLETELY heartless. Just greedy.

 

Me seriously, I am donating $50 as that is all I have at the moment to Red Cross and hopefully that money will help someone in need. I think what the government is doing is wrong and the response time to help is horrible. Many many reasons why the response time was bad.

As for the 11 people who didn't vote, I don't know why the didn't... I agree they have no heart and if anyone ever find out there names, please post it. I would like to e-mail/mail them personally about there vote and how I feel.

 

The reason people would be against donating the money is because of the fact that we are in such a dept at the moment.
It's not even funny.
Here is the estimated amount
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
Also we shouldn't even be in this situation right now. The major of New Orleans approached Bush 2 or 3 times (not positive) about a grant to upgrade the leavies but Bush refused and said that there are more important things to spend the money on (the war).
I'm not trying to start anything, just stating why they might have refused.

 

cold hearted selfish bastards

 

Wow gotta say thats alot of money.

 

Damn, too much? They have money making machines..

 

Damn, too much? They have money making machines.. [/b][/quote]
It's not that easy.
If you do that then the value of the dollar goes down and so does our economy.

 

Did anyone hear about FEMA? They reportedly denied 5 Wal-Mart trailers full of food, 2 Coast Guard cutters full of fuel, and a Sikorsky coptor full of water. And that's only the American aid. They're also allegedly refusing help from around the world, except from NATO, the UN, and the EU.

 

I don't care how much debt this country is in.. THATS IRRELEVANT.

Thank you for pointing this out, but even if they only voted no because they wanted to lower the amount of the relief fund, it doesn't make a difference.

WHAT IS A HUMAN LIFE WORTH?

What about 10?

100? 1000?

What about suffering?

How much is watching your loved ones die worth? How much is it worth to have to suffer infections and starving? How about losing everything you ever owned?

The amount of damage caused by this hurricane is WAAAAAAAAAAY more then 50 billion dollars worth.

The amount of pain, suffering and trauma it caused is priceless, and can NEVER be fixed...


But giving relief money to help aid in the rebuilding of these peoples' lives... That's not somethign you should compare to how much debt this country is in.

The country was already in debt before this, and will be in debt after it. The debt is irrelevant. The only thing that matter is how many people are suffering, and the fact that there are people sitting in a nice warm room voting NO to this, while dressed in business suits, who literally get to give themselves raises WHENEVER THEY WANT BECAUSE IT'S WRITTEN IN THE CONSTITUTION. They have no idea what it's liek to be in those people's positions in New Orleans.


Other issues in the country or outside of the country do not matter. You take care of your own people.

11 NO votes in unacceptable.

 

I can understand them refusing food from around the world because of contamination reasons but refusing food from wall-mart, etc is ridiculous. I'm not going to blieve anything though untill I read it from a ligitamite source...

 

Yes, there was reports that Fidel Castro offered 1000 doctors to aide... But they were turned away.

Keep in mind that the Cuban doctors are some of the best in the world especially when it comes to dealing with infectious disease.

And why did we turn it down? Because of the past with Cuba.

You know what? we lost over 50000 people in the Vietnam war, and we are NOW ALLIED WITH NORTHERN VIETNAM.

We have positive relations with Germany, Japan, Russia, etc.

And these are all countries who LITERALLY WERE AT WAR WITH US.. What did Cuba do? Give us a scare about NUKES decades ago?

When did they EVER kill a SINGLE American in a war? Never.

We should have nothing against Cuba, and even though there is a trade embargo, they STILL OFFERED TO HELP...

What did our country do? They said no.

 

Actually it's funny that you say what is someones life worth.
I say this because in America everyone has a price tag. As said by my World History Honors teacher who also teacher American History.
If you run over a hobo you might get a year in jail and out on bailbut that's probobly about it.
If you kill a doctor who makes millions a year in a car accident you will serve more time in jail aswell as loose almoust everything you posses in order to repay his families loss.
The fact that you say our dept is irrelevent is not true. Atleast I don't think it is. I am not against the money going to New Orleans. I'm just talking politics here. The more dept we are in the less the dollar is worth, the worse our economy and the more money we have to pay meaning the more dept we are in. There fore if something even worse happens in the future and our budget is totally wiped out we are screwed.

Now back to the how much we are worth topic. As I said everyone has a price tag. The more money you make the more important you are to the economy and the higher your price tag is. Right now as a teenager you probobly don't make much money therefore if you get killed in a car accident and it's the other persons fault they basically get jail time and give your family a few grand. When you grow up it's a whole different situation money wise.
It's what the judge and jury look at when making dicissions about how much time you serve and how much money you are liable for. No lie.

 

New Orleans is a vast city. It has more then a bunch of hobos in it.

It has courthouses, police stations, fire departments.

It is the home to wealthy as well as the poor. Strong as well as the weak.

My point si that there is a crisis, and you cannot put a price tag on peoples lives who are not dead yet. You cannot say "Well, if they die because we don't pay, then so be it." these are living human beings who still ahve these problems.


I understand your counterpoint, but it's still heartless for people to completely not see the use in helping people NOT DIE.

I want for you to go to New Orleans. Stay there for a week. Tell me how you feel in their situation. Now imagine being there, and everything you ever owned was destroyed. Now imagine you don't know if any of the rest of your family is still alive, or whether that bloated body floating in the water might be a loved one.





As far as a LITERAL meaning of PUTTING A PRICE TAG on something, yes, there CAN be a price put on human life, but it doesnt make it right.



Hell, go into the Army. When you are in there, you are no longer a person, you are a weapons system. Some call it a weapons platform, or a weapons transpotation vehicle.

You are no longer a person, you are a number owned by the government. Therefore, let's say you jump down some stairs, break your ankle... GUess what you get? An Article 15 for DESTRUCTION OF GOVERNMENT PROPERTTY. If you hurt yourself in anyway that affects your ability to perform your duty, you get A15ed.


Of course you can be heartless and say "a person has a physical value" but you're not realizing that once someone is gone, tehy are gone for good. There is no price for that. there is no value that can replace somethign like that.

You obviously have not faced death, nor seen death around you to the extent otehrs have.

I do not hold that against you, but it doesn't take away the fact that if your mother or father or loved ones died, no amount of money could bring them back.

 

yeah that is alot of money but you got to do what u got to do.