I got them from a lot of hosting companys and just decided to render them because i wa s boured and wanted to practice.... Hmmm... im trying to find out whats wrong with my computer, because they dont look choppy on here, but everyone says they are really choppy . Well anyways, im working on a new render which is going relaly good i think, most renders i've done were all with lasso tool and magic wand, the one im making now im using eraser tool, so far i've been spending an hour on it and its almost done, but its a pretty hard one to render, it big, has fire and rocks all over in some places, and difficult places to cut. THanks for feedback, i hope my new one will turn out better.