Text And Scanlines

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  1. Ryzuma

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    Well my text on everything i make sucks. Anyone know how i can make it better?

    And also how do you make scanlines?
     
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    Good idea wanting to improve your text... but let me say one thing...

    Do. Not. Use. Scanlines. In. Your. Graphics... please.

    It was a horrible trend in graphics.
     
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    ty for the links

    how come scanlines are bad? btw i love paramore lol

    edit: just clicked the links >_>
     
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    if you use scanlines make sure you lower the opacity every time.
     
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    Scanlines just take away from everything.

    There's really no purpose for them.

    =]
     
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    "I disagree with Renagade but only to a certain extent. Scanlines are much like C4D effect renders. Overdone and you've ruined your piece. Under done and you might as well not add them. If you major to get them just right, If you get them to serve your piece instead of your piece serving them, than it'll be an improvement.
     
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    Scan-lines are a childish, amateur effect. They remove from every aspect that you might want to achieve in a sig (depth, flow, realism, composition, perspective) and adds nothing to it. There is never a good time for scan-lines.
     
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    Not to be rude, but only someone who has no creativity would ever count out an effect. Any effect, even scanlines, have purposes. Its up to the artist themself to try and find the purpose. I've seen many pieces where the scanlines were just as much apart of the piece as anything. Especially on large art.

    It also depends on what he means. Does he mean scanlines as in regular patterns? Or would he, like so many other mistaken people, count illustrator lines as scanlines. [NOTE: I'm not saying You do. I'm just saying that I've seen it mistaken many times on this and other sites.]

    I'll try to find a few pieces in which Scanlines ADD and not subtract.
     
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    o dam so much hate for scanlines.
    anyone got anyhting for text?
     
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    I believe you may be confusing 'scanlines' with any other design. There may have been lines used in art work that were completely necessary to the piece, but I highly doubt they were scanlines.

    Please, so me what you are talking about so I can see your side.
     
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    Scanlines are the one lined raster scanning pattern that appear one Televisions or old computer monitors. Often placed in signature or artwork over or behind an image. Now comes the argument of is a scan line still a scan line if most of it is erased? Scanlines are offered in pattern form on deviantart and that is where I'm taking the subject matter from:

    http://soad2k.deviantart.com/art/Decipher-73561486 = Background
    http://soad2k.deviantart.com/art/Miligram-smile-128957217 = Effect around the render. [Note: The Eye is not a Scanline pattern]

    Anyways, to see my point does not involve me posting examples. The whole point of my posts is not what scan lines are but that a graphic artist should never count out an effect just because they currently see no use for it. What if someone was creating a TV icon with the TV on? Scanlines. Scanlines can also be used to create situations to show me lighting. You have a really depthful signature. Place down some scanlines and it will turn flat. That way you can tell exactly where you want the lighting to come from. By saying someone should never use scanlines is saying a painter should never use the color yellow. That's my point.

    PS: I thought I'd add that personally I hate scanlines. Try not to use them, but I would never not want to have the ability to use them. Because they do work sometimes. Better to have an not need than need and not have.
     
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    Neither of those examples is what one would typically define (in the signature making sense of the word) as scanlines. Not all horizontal lines are scanlines, and in both the examples you listed they were used in ways completely different from what Renagade and myself were talking about.
     
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    As I said in my follow up after those. I didn't know how you describe them so I gave two more examples of how they could be used as tools. One in the TV Icon & One as a direct tool to help with lighting. The whole point was that you guys were saying "Never" and I was saying "Why Never". There are times when Scan lines could work.

    Forewarning: I am extremely stubborn. I know this. To quote homer "Excuse me for having flaws I don't change".
     
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    I don't consider those scan lines though.

    That's where our problem arises.

    And that's where it will stay.

    We both disagree on what scan lines actually are.
     
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