Hey I once messaged a designer and asked him how does he create his designs and he said he uses several tricks. like he goes and finds pictures of animals and even other designes as a reference. would you call this ripping even if it wasn't traced just well copied? He told me if I made it really different it doesn't matter what you do. jimiyo lion a lion I did back in august of last year. I just want to get your guys opinion cause the shirt is printed and I'm not sure if this is actually wrong or not. cheers
you just described how someone uses inspiration.... can also be know as idea ripping.......... so its not ripping
so you wouldn't call it ripping right? I'm just making sure even though alot alot of people do this I don't wanna get myself in a bad position one day cheers
well only the the creator knows if they ripped or not. did you trace any of the image or copy anything from a .psd if not all it is an idea rip which many ppl do so ur not guilty
In the case of the lion it would not be ripping. But if the image was trademarked, and was put to commercial use, text especially, you could be liable for a lawsuit.
his design is a t-shirt design at designbyhumans.com and mine is a christian company. now that that I drew it and not traced or anything would that me used as a lawsuit? and how do I found out if its trademarked. cheers
It isn't ripping, it's using another design as direct inspiration for your personal design. I do it, nearly every person in the web design business does it, and almost all major designers do it. You aren't copying anyones work, you aren't claiming any of their work as your own, you are simply using their ideas and making them your own. Even on your comparison there is some pretty obvious differences. Oh, and good luck ever claiming you made the first ever graphic lion. Try to take that to court, I dare you, the judge will just laugh at you.
That's what I like to call "using a reference" . That's only illegal in certain cases. And it's not about the definition of ripping or even ethics, it's about the laws of copyright. I'd say you're in the clear. Just remember that copying is infringement too. There are instances where it doesn't matter, and instances where it does, and instances where it could go either way. Use your better judgment to identify them. Everything is copyrighted from the moment of creation. That doesn't mean that they can file a lawsuit. You must purchase copyright registration before it can go to court, but it can be purchased after the infringement is committed. To check if it's been registered, you can browse the records here. www.copyright.gov will also explain the laws and limits. If you get your info from there, you can feel pretty safe, since it's a government site . They've also updated it in the last few years, so it's much more user friendly. Used to have all of the articles logged there and you had to read through them all: legal mumbo jumbo and all. Eggman, you don't trademark an image, you trademark logos, titles, and slogans. Silly goose!
A logo is an image and images can be trademarked, logo or not. If that lion was trademarked, which it obviously is not, then similarities in both images could easily make it a possibility in a lawsuit. The phrases 'The Wheel of Time' and 'The Dragon Reborn' are trademarked and the breaking of that, whether intentionally or not, is cause enough for the trademark holder to get a suit. Trademark is the only thing he would have to worry about when he hasn't traced or 'ripped' anything from the image.
not sure about over in usa but under UK copyright law, its perfectly legal to "rip" upto 10% of the work, 100x100px on a 1000x1000 canvas, 1 layer from a 10 layer psd, hell, even 1 psd from a pack of 10. Sure its unethical but not illegal under these rules
Nope. Just stating, 'i made this lion, he clearly copied me (which its really not even close to a copy), I want money!' is just a sure fire way to get a judge to laugh at you and drop the case. Sure, if it was a custom made logo of 25 different animals into some were-beast it would have been unique, but a lion? Newsflash, do you have any clue how long art has been around? Do you realize that you aren't the first person to create a lion? This is why 'pro' designer egos bother me. 'I made that lion, no one else before me could have ever possibly done any design with similar concepts, especially of something so ferocious like a lion'. It's stupid. For the record, almost all of my templates have been ripped and posted on various warez sites. I know Shaggy had some issues with the sites and trying to get them removed, especially v3, but I think he failed in that regard. I don't have any qualms about it, I take it as a matter of respect. I only sell FR, I don't sell for $30 for usage rights, so when someone takes the time to rip my template and people like it enough to download it and put it on their websites, it means I did a good job.
With music you have to be careful how you use your inspiration. If it sounds too similar, it can still be considered infringement. I'm sure graphic art is a similar case.
hey I sent jimiyo the design and see what did he think and this is what he said "the creator of my reference" Naw, that's great. I feel like it's acceptable to reference someone else's work provided you don't make it a habit. I mean, I referenced a couple photos. And also a while back, I use to reference Hydro74/Troy White. Once you do it a couple times you get your own voice. I don't mind people mimicking my style or images. World's too big, life's too short to worry about that. I'll just keep crankin it out. Thanks for sharing. ;j sssoo im clear!
