Obama As The Antichrist

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  1. dementia

    dementia Well-Known Member

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    I have raped, killed, and eaten 5 children and asked for forgiveness, so I am going to heaven.
    I maintained a perfect grade point average, never missed a day of school, grew up under the best circumstances and am a very successful person with very minor sins and asked for forgiveness, so I am going to heaven.

    hmmm.....
     
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    Exactly.

    Sin is sin, God forgives. That's that. The point isn't what you've done, it's whether you've honestly and genuinely repented of it. If you just say that you've repented and don't mean it within yourself, then God won't forgive you.

    If you don't hold Christian values, that's fine but please don't mock them.

    If Christians mock non-Christian values, then I'm terribly sorry and those people set a bad example for all Christians.

    I regret that many judge Christians based on the actions of a few, entirely too radical, too 'force my beliefs down your throat' individuals.
     
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    I ------ing hate those people
     
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    That's what blind faith is, which is *exactly* what pisses me off about you religious nutjobs as I explained on the past page in a 4 paragraph post.

    I will mock any individuals beliefs, that is my right, given to me by YOUR god as your text says, any by MY country. I will mock your stupidity, and your blind faith in a single religion without any experience in any of the other world cultures or religions. I will mock your choices because it is illogical and emotional, which are completely opposite of who I am. I will mock you until you can provide me with enough facts to prove you know exactly what you believe and that you have looked into every possible corner for answers before just relying on the first thing that came to you (which also makes you weak willed, another trait I despise).

    The best part about the christian religion in particular is the absurd amount of radical, shove it down your throat people who have not a single clue about their own religion (most of the time being extremely hypocritical, beyond just that of forcing your beliefs on another) or any other religion, but still believe blindly. Disgusts me.
     
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    And I'm very sorry that you have the misfortune to know such people.

    Yes, we believe we're right, but some people need to learn that there is such a thing as toleration and living in unity.
     
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    I have spent the last 10 years of my life researching world religions and cultures. I have studied almost every faith out there, I've talked to people from almost every faith out there. I have spent time looking at the values and practices of Catholicism, voodoo, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sihkism, nihilism, atheist societies and just about every other thing out there because I didn't want to be ignorant. The 3 years of my life I spent as an atheist were quite literally hell. I was manic depressive, disoriented, and, quite frankly, nobody was willing to help me. Are you telling me that I should have continued with that? Trying as hard as I could just to scrape a living, feeling like I have no purpose and generally being a burden to all those around me?

    For 9 to 10 years, I was looking for knowledge. I found Protestant Christianity, after researching dozens of faiths and selecting one based on its merits and what I felt was right, and it changed my life.

    Please, do NOT tell me I am blindly faithful or ignorant of culture and other beliefs.

    Oh, but please, let me honestly apologize for my brethren because we are all extremely hypocritical, ingorant and blind as bats.

    Every single one of us.
     
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    I do see your point.

    Though, I never said we were perfect. In fact, that's the whole basis of Christianty; admitting your imperfectness and asking for forgiveness.

    Besides, who said Christians weren't allowed to live their lives to the fullest? In my own personal experience, I avoid many things in society because they're either harmful to myself or someone else. Not because of my religion, necessarily. This is one reason I chose Christianity as my faith, because so many of its ideals matched up with my ethical and moral beliefs.
     
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    So enlighten me, what are the basics of each of those religions you studied, as I have too studied those religions and more. Frankly, anyone can list off a list of religions, 90% of the time they will have no clue about the actual basis of the religion.

    Atheists are nearly as stupid as blind religious individuals because you have to be mentally handicapped to deny the existence of a greater power period (and most self-proclaimed atheists are agnostics when you talk to them anyways).

    You should continue on a path of knowledge to find out what you believe. Personally until the age of 16 or so I was forced to go to church, and from about 13 or 14 to my current age of 20 I have been studying, practicing and questioning every major religion I can possibly think of. There are some things that are true throughout every single scripture, such as Noah's Ark. Not the exact story, but that there was a giant boat with a lot of creatures and massive flood that lasted for a long period of time. There are other similarities between all religions, and frankly if it is written down in that many places from that many different people after all these years, I find it hard to deny that its fact. That is how my current belief system has been made. I have cut out all the crap (which is basically 'eye witness stories' of the god in question) and combined all the similarities of all the worlds major religions into my personal belief system and filled in what I believe to be true. I consider myself an agnostic christian, not because of a belief in God, but a belief in a god and how my general set of morals are. I choose to act much like the traditional judeo christian as much as I can, which is why it is simply easy to state agnostic christian.

    Nearly every person of your religion that I have ever encountered (and there has been thousands as I live in a very well populated area where the only common religion is christianity, and I have conversed with literally thousands of professed 'true believers' and they are all blind, ignorant, and forceful of their beliefs, perhaps its the church, but I doubt it, because people interpret the scriptures in their own ways. This above all else drives their personal decisions.

    Also, regarding your state as an atheist and how you felt, its obvious there is more emotionally wrong with you than the average individual, from a psychology standpoint. The reason you felt manic depressive, alone, etc. is because you had nothing to fill that void, which is what almost every christian or any religious person I have talked to has. People cling onto the first thing that they claim 'fulfills' them, its an addictive personality which is what drives you to become so extremely defensive and volatile (in the sense of being changeable) when it comes to your own religion. Sorry, but that is the truth.

    Believing in nothing makes you manic depressed, while as soon as you found the easiest religion on the planet to practice you magically feel good. Then you use all of your positive encounters since becoming a christian as a way to further place justice in believing in something that is almost entirely of faith alone. You refuse to see that changes in the stock market could increase the likelihood of that raise / promotion you get at work. You refuse to think that anything other than... *gasp* the DIVINE POWER OF GOD and how it has and will forever bless your life.
     
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    Don't try and pull any ---- involving religion saving you from bipolar. It is a mental illness not directly effected by what's going on in your mind, and although outside factors may increase the adverse effects of manic or depressive episodes you can still experience episodes at random times no matter what is going on in your life/head.

    So unless you started popping pills at the same time as you discovered God, you were just a moody ------.
     
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    I love you.
     
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    Don't tell me what I do and do not refuse to see, please.

    Who said Christians somehow aren't allowed to use the stock market to their advantage or be enterprising individuals?

    Do I attribute every good thing in my life to being a Christian? Hell no. Sometimes the reason something good happens to me is because SOMETHING GOOD HAPPENED TO ME.

    Imagine that... a Christian who doesn't think sunshine flows from their every orifice. Unheard of, I say!


    I commend you for doing your homework and agree with you that it is digusting that some poeple will accept Christianity simply because it's a family tradition, the status quo, or the like.


    I regret you that you base your views of all Christians on these individuals in your area.

    I certainly wouldn't mind it if you debated with them so ardently as you are with me and others; it might force to them to reconsider the grounds of their faith.


    You really think becoming a Christian filled this 'void'? Not really. That wasn't my purpose for saving myself, nor did it solve the problem. I was merely stating that the events in my life took quite a dramatic turn. We can debate endlessly about what caused this and get nowhere.
     
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    Hey I'm still a moody ------.
     
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    I am sorry, clearly going to college for a degree in psychology gives me no right to put to use what I have learned. Its obvious, doesn't even require a college education, to know that you have other issues greater than that of the average individual (as do I, but everyone here should know that by now). Also, do you intentionally try to twist the words I state? I told you very specifically without any errors what I meant about the stock market and yet you either don't understand what I said, or you can't come up with a logical come back and instead twist what I said to something convoluted you can use against me?
     
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    Good tactic; when all else fails, you should obviously bring to the attention of the readers the mental defficiencies of your opponent. That's what we call a red herring logical fallacy.

    I can answer to that argument directly if you'd like.

    "You refuse to see that changes in the stock market could increase the likelihood of that raise / promotion you get at work."
    - No I don't. Changes in the stock market can increase the likelihood of that raise / promotion I get at work.

    EDIT:

    Quick question, what all does Mandi's in the Middle do? Are they a graphics crew?
     
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    Good man, you are already better than nearly each christian poster in this thread.

    Most of the Christians here would contribute their success in life to their religion solely. Most couldn't even comprehend that just *maybe* the changes in the stock market are what caused their company to have an excess of money and thus a desire to increase a long term employees pay rate, it is solely through the divine power of god that it ever could have happened to them.

    MitM (now Majin in the Middle, as I removed Mandi) is a flame / spam / irc crew. Most of us belong to a graphics crew, more or less were all just friends.
     

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