Er-huh. Mantis. I didn't slate your work. And none of this was an attack on you personally. People have always had reasons for hating the current trend, just happen to think this is the worse. And to be honest, you instigated this topic with your post in the SDOTY thread, otherwise this wouldn't have come up. Neuron, I'm not saying I'm stating fact. It's clearly opinion...your point being? (Aside from stating opinion as fact being a common persuasive method). Kay? Kay. Now. Got no reason to justify my work to you Mantis, (And the realism tag in my sig you're referring to is...? Since I've not had one in there for roughly, ever). Either way, recieved two DDs for my work (If only one without some <3), for LPs. Sigs aren't my area anymore, so, once you start actually expanding then come back and talk to me. Tired of it. Everyone's justified to their opinion. So ehm, why am I not? What the hell is the point of any debate, ever, if you leave it at that? Annnyyyywho. Enough QQing, god forbid we get people's views on things which other people disagree with. That'd be shocking. Inverse hit the nail on the head ages ago.
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