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  1. Pulse.

    Pulse. Well-Known Member

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    i blame zain, always is zains fault for everything that goes wrong..

    its a good idea but Kirbir's User Aid is the only one that really worked imo, the mafia was a flop from what i saw. But if you can get something like this to work and actually use the creds given etc for resources and keep at it without makin it bomb then id like to see it happen..

    i might help
     
  2. Prince Zainx

    Prince Zainx The Dark Prince

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    Not helping <_<
     
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    Umm isn't that kinda like the plat resorces and stuff? Except with credits? And who would the said credits go to?
     
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    Prince Zainx The Dark Prince

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    The credits would go to an account which only the High Position Staff
    Global Mod or Admin has the access to.

    The Credits will then be used to buy more resources from various members to place into the Mafia's Gold Sanctuary.

    And when we need the credits we will just say that we bin or bid and if we win the Auction / Bid we will just PM to that account saying:

    Please Send: XXXXX Amount of money
    To: Zainx
    For: ....Blah Blah Blah Tutorials, 3 Psd's, etc etc.

    Then when we get the PM back in that Account they would just go ahead and post the resources in the Mafia's Gold Sanctuary.

    Something in that manner!

    Also I am willing to help out with this if needed! I got plenty of time! :D

    -Zain
     
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    If you all start, I might donate one or two PSD's for LR or whatnot.
     
  6. nanSTA

    nanSTA Senior Member

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    I think Zainu's idea is the best for the staff, and easiest for myself, and whoever else is helping out.

    So basically all the Staff will do is...
    1. Controlling the income of credits to the account.
    2. Controlling the buying of resources (credits).
    3. Giving access to people who are buying membership.
    What helpers such as myself will do is...
    1. Buying of the resources.
    2. Posting of the resources.
    3. Any other little things.
     
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    Prince Zainx The Dark Prince

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    Finally You Understand me :P

    btw it was her fault that two years ago Mafia was shut down :(
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    Z
     
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    ^^ I lol'd
     
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    And about the pricing this is how it would go down. (2 Ways)

    More Credit consumption for resources:
    3 Week Subscription - 100 Credits
    Lifetime Subscription - 1000 Credits

    Easier for staff (no changing permissions over & over):
    People who donate more than 500 get access
     
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    Hmm sounds interesting, your going to have to get some good resorces I think, so people will play the price. Mabey before it started give a preview of the resorces?
     
  11. Sniper001

    Sniper001 Legen-wait for it-dary!

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    Not a bad idea, except there is still no staff member which has agreed to help. Kirbir is almost due for a baby, and thus, will probably not have time to aid this idea (as much as she would like too).

    Some minor problems with the pricing though. When the project is launched, there won't be many resources (hypothetically) because resources will constantly be put into the directory as donations come in (which will happen in the later future of the project being released.) Why would somebody want to purchase a "3 week subscription" right when the project is launched... they would be wasting their credits. Therefore, that type of membership will be useless right when this project is released. If nobody is purchasing memberships (or a large quantity of them) when the project is released, it won't work out. (Fewer buyers when the project is released means loss of credits earned which means less credits get removed from the system and fewer resources are purchased.)

    I, personally, feel that there should just be an option of a one time lifetime payment of 500 credits - it would be easier to monitor as well. 1000 credits is a bit too pricy. You need to look at it from a statistics point of view (hopefully the staff can figure this out based on other things that have been sold in this forum).
    Would there be more credits donated if the membership cost is high or whether more "memberships" are sold for a lower price? I feel the second option would work better.Why would you set the price to 1000 credits with only 20 people buying the membership, when you can set it to 500 credits (so more people can afford) and sell possibly 70 memberships. In the end, the cheaper option wins.

    Besides, one more thing to consider is not only are we trying to eliminate credits from the system... but from what I recall (maybe I am wrong), the whole point of "User's aid" was to HELP MEMBERS. It was to allow members to learn from a large variety of resources. To help more users learn, the pack should be at an affordable price for the average person.

    There are some other things which I'll bring up in the future if this project is launched.
    Anyway- I wouldn't mind helping out for the original launch of the program if it's done this month. Just drop me a PM.
     
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    i like this idea i better start saving now if this ever happens
     
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    ^^ yeah I am selling 2 PSD's so I can get a lifetime, if this gets up ;)
     
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    Everyone comes back with 'we learn from it', etc. We all know thats BS. Frankly, I like kirbir as a member of staff, but she HAS done this before and as she said, she nearly lost her staff position, and was banned alongside many others here on the stie for some massive misuse of credits, even as shes volunteering, I would prefer a second global also be there and that they be sonsulted regarding each thing bought and sold and they maintain sole posession of the credits, no member regardless of rank.

    Improper logical thought as an administrator? We have shut down 2 groups by the name of GR Mafia, 1 group of User's Aid, and a multitude of other no name groups who did this. Why? EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM went to fraudulent use of the credits donated. In some cases they sold the credits to buy their own accounts memberships, others they bought resources to give out on their own site, etc. EVERY SINGLE ONE. I have not seen a single, 'hey why don't you donate to us and well buy resources for the community' group that actually did as it said it did.

    This is also 'essentially' buying your way into a member group, as it essentially offers nearly the same benefits, which takes actual USD from the site (being if we charge people credits to be a part of the group)..
     
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    TBH, I know you don't trust me nor' anyone, and cant. But I wouldn't...that's it. I also know my word means nothing from past experience. But, Third Times the charm.
    Anyhow, I wouldn't mind if only staff managed this. I would merely just tell staff what to buy (helping out)...ect.

    Also, I don't think it will take from the site. A lot of members cant afford (or simply wont) buy membership anyways. So why not have this where they can use credits. Its simply giving another option. And actually its a lot different than the Memberships here at GR. GR's membership give so many more things than just a place for resources (which isnt as filled and actively getting added rsources, aside from the platinum monthly [which is expansive for many]), I don't need too explain it. All this is simply giving is a forum full of premium resources. Which you need to buy with credits only (which we make no profit off of whatsoever[all goes back into the forum]). We can even call it Donating, to make the person feel better when buying :). If I'm totally away from what you meant please re-explain.

    Thanks

    Firstly, I'm not really worried about staff, I am about 80% sure that a staff member will help. If this is considered it wont happen right away, so we have time.

    Secondly, I already have a large stock of credits backed up for this idea, and ready to use. And I also have a large folder full of Tags, LPs...ect (not including my tags also).

    About the payment options, the prices I listed are just estimates, it definitely wont be that high. And the reason I want to do a Temporary membership is because I want to make sure there is always going to be a flow of credits coming in too use. Once everyone buys a lifetime...there is no credit income. But I agree with you statement about making the lifetime cheaper and more affordable for everyone thus getting more buyers.

    Also, Im not trying to eliminate credits from the system. The Credits in rotation is actually much lower than it should be. Regardless, this idea has nothing to do with that. But, yes the membership should be affordable.

    Nevertheless, Thanks for you comments Sniper.
     
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