Xbox 360 Finally Getting Blu-ray

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  1. cheatsmaster

    cheatsmaster Gotta Catch 'Em All!

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    That's cool we're getting a blu-ray disc player. But tons of people say that the blu-ray makes no difference - is this true?
     
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    xlink GR's Tech Enthusiast

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    well PC side where the games are more demanding(think crysis)

    virtually nothing is even close to 50GB and that's with all the game data decompressed.
    compressed, there isn't much that won't fit into a double sided DVD

    and for those who knwo anything about xenos, it's largely idle even during heavy action. games just aren't multithreaded and when Xenos has 6 threads and only 3 or 4 are utilized... well. you've got a third of the CPU's processing power sittingle idle for decompression.

    the onyl downside is that the xbox 360 is pretty low on RAM by industry standards so the decompression might be a bit of a killer in that regard.


    basically think of the blu ray drive as a media center thing because it probably won't be used in games or if it is it sure own't be used in many. too great a cost for the discs.
     
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    360 owners get scrwed again coz they wont be able to play blu ray discs on the 20mil standard 360 owners - unless MS offer free upgrade for 360 owners to add bluray drives inside the standard ones and i highly doubt it

    worthy post:

    "Here is why Sony won't be worried. The big difference between PS3 and 360 is that Sony is actually making their games on Blue-Ray disc and 360 won't be able to till the next generation of Xbox system. Why? Because then they'll alienate the over 20 MILLION 360 owners who's system's won’t be able to play a 360 Blue Ray game. And what does that spell? Instant disaster. Current 360 games are made on standard DVD's and a firmware upgrade will not magically allow current 360's to play Blue-Ray games, the drives in the current systems would have to be physically taken out and replaced with blue-ray drives in order to do that. And that is why the PS3 will rule over 360 because devs have more room to play with on a PS3 game than a 360 game because of blue ray (MGS4 for example is over 40GB on a single disc). So Sony has nothing to sweat because this move my Microsoft is their way of trying to play catch up while the PS3 will continue to sell. Them going to Blue-ray is just another instance of Sony one upping them once again."
     
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    ... all PS3 games on the market are on Blu-ray discs........ so no, the cost for the discs aren't as high as you think. Consumer products are just overpriced.

    And I like to think of the Blu-ray as a future investment. Yes, current games and what not don't use all the disc space on a Blu-ray discs, but think how many doors that opens in future video games.

    anyways... since HD lost the race to Blu-ray Microsoft was pretty much bound to release a blu-ray drive. Sony wins again.
     
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    Realistically hardly anything is futureproofed since every year something new comes out which will make us spend - Maybe another resolution will come out after 1080p? 2080p? lol

    http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/02/25/ms...box_360_hd_dvd/ - i dont know what the HD-dvd owners will do when the new one comes out = abandoned
     
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    cost of DVD to produce
    $.15

    cost of blu ray disc to produce >$1

    then multiply that over say 50,000,000 games.


    also --- tip: I've watched people blow $500 on graphics cards while I spent $250. At the time they were future proofing since they spent twice as much for a 20% performance boost...
    18 months later I have a new $250 card, have sold the old one for $100 and have over double the performance of the guy who future proofed and $100 cash in hand.

    future proofing isn't happening unless you know something I don't. Future proofing might be buying two 750GB harddisks(FYI tjos scemarop realistically costs about the same amount(over a 5 year period) asblu ray player + 30 blu ray discs) and storing your 10-20GB games on that and watching as mechanical failure and total system obsolescence happens prior to filling those discs.

    that's future proofing, making a part so good that you'll end up throwing it away with the rest of the system when everything else becomes largely useless.
     
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    I love this whole idea that because Xbox may not have a perfectly well thought out Blu-Ray system "Sony wins again" while 360 has constantly won on sales.
    -Shrug-

    Enjoy your Blu-Ray, personally I'll stick with my little un-advanced Xbox 360.
     
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    flash memory is the future.

    screw your discs it's all about electronic circuits like transistors.
     
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    Or solid state, that would be interesting to see the developments of SSM in a few years.
     
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    Plus as others have said, so what if the PS3 has Blueray compatibility in built. By the time designers are pushing that console to those limits where Blueray is truly utalised (even if thats possible given the rest of the PS3 hardware) it will be about time for the next gen of consoles to come out anyway. In the meantime 360 would have continued its current sales trend, PS3 would have stayed on the slow burner and Sony would ultimately have lost to both its competitors (Ninty and M$). I find it hard to believe PS3 will ever dominate the current games market even if it tops the 360 somehow.
     
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    the heck do you think solid state is?

    predominantly flash based.

    true you can have dRAM based solid state setups but those are volatile and for the most part it's more economical to use flash based medium.


    it's actually predicted that PS3 sales will overtake xbox sales such that by the time the PS4 and the xbox 720 are out the PS3 will have outsold the 360
     
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    Yes !
    Loving this news...just gotta finish Year 12 then no-lifing xbox 360 :D
    Only 4-5 months left
     
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    Poor 360... *sigh*
     
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    Meh, I like my 360 just the way it is :) No need for fancy stuff like blu-ray, I don't think I need 50gb games.
     

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