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  1. dementia

    dementia Well-Known Member

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    Sure I would.

    But, under your own accusations, I would edit all of their posts, and delete yours, because I am oh so corrupt and bent on crushing you. You and your conspiracy theories. So the whole basis would be pointless, according to you, of course. I have also never ever edited a post to ban anyone, and I wouldn't have to, I have the posts already pulled I was gonna use against you, as I don't take chances, also something you should have known by now.
     
  2. Arkasuss

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    I have no proof of you never doing that, or you won't do that. I know nothing of you except what I have seen over the internet, which is often a medium of sending lies.

    your words mean then mean nothing to me.

    and then use these posts. Obviously the rest of your staff can't argue with me. Why don't you try.
     
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    Your words also mean nothing to me, or this site, so therefore your opinion is null, and this argument is stupid, and thus you are a retard for making me waste my time on a worthless spoiled brat such as yourself.
     
  4. Majin

    Majin Senior Member

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  5. Arkasuss

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    if that were true, I would gladly accept that.

    I obviously meant your words on how you have never editted something to ban someone. You couldn't prove this, so I have no reason to trust you.

    (I believe I have actually increased activity on GR, especially staff activity)

    EDIT: wow aenema, I didn't realize there was anything more "owned" than failing to show up to your classes and getting kicked out of them. Good luck in life.
     
  6. Logicaly

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    I could argue with you, im just choosing not to just as an FYI. I said my piece in the start, which is what I wanted to say, and feel no need to continue to hammer the topic at hand. It has nothing to do with a lack of ability to argue with you. However, I am sure you will reply with some response that you think is going to make you look good, and me look bad, and it will have some mention of how im not choosing to argue, but rather not having the ability to prove you wrong, or being too ignorant to read or something of that nature.

     
  7. Majin

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  8. Arkasuss

    Arkasuss Well-Known Member

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    That's basically the best block to not having to argue or advocate your initial beliefs and still looking good. Though you stated that all with a negative connotation, its all very true.

    Why not argue with me? I doubt you are busier than me.

    go ahead and do what ever you want. I do not care what you do unless you respond to my own arguments against yours. Then I will continue with you.
     
  9. wildsorrow

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    I just finished reading that thread and some of this thread.

    Buccaneer, you did have a good idea making the thread. However, the questions you asked in the poll were not thought out well.

    Telling the staff members they're not to reply and justify themselves is pretty stupid.

    Insulting the staff members from the first post didn't help either too.

    unnecessary.

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  10. Arkasuss

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    Acrima, The reason why I said not for staff to ask is in here, and the polls were fine (unless you tell me why not):

    1) It was constructive; I don't understand why it is so hard to comprehend its intent. The discussion topic had a variety of polls. The first two could be answered with a firm, "yes", "no", or a "maybe". Thus, the topic and thread was perfectly constructive, and not an attack. Now, I, like others who voted, had my own opinions. The whole point of the topic was to discuss. I discussed and advocated my opinions. How is that an attack? It seems you are actually attacking ME based on my thoughts. Hence, the thread was not an attack. Instead of getting all pissed off, which you have no reason to do so, just do nothing like you usually do.

    2) Yes, I did ask you not to post on the thread. Why? Because the community could defend you if they like, they had equal chance in their opinions. The questions didn't all have one answer, in case you didn't realize. I asked you not to interfere in anyway, as I had solely the purpose to recognize the communities' opinions. Of course you would defend yourselves; if you didn't, that would just be weird lol. But the community has the ability and position to attack, defend, or remain neutral to the staff. Thus, in prospect of a fair discussion, the staff could not be allowed to post. Some of you were nice enough to PM me, others were not.

    3) I've already explained this, but you're telling me that I can't demand you to do things? I had asked you not to reply; I can't force you to do anything. But if you did, I said I would rightfully give you a neg rep, as you would have been disrespectful and rude in not allowing a fair discussion to occur.

    4) There's no need to use that sort of language. I did nothing wrong, and you just do nothing but say no to all of my suggestions. No good reason, no allowance of warrant, or anything else. If anything, I should be flaming you.



    I never said the staff wasn't human. I realize you are in no way perfect, but that doesn't mean the staff doesn't have potential to improve. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I can't do a better job, but whom better than the community to show how you guys could improve? You guys and gals have the greatest impact on us, the community, and therefore, we have the greatest potential in showing you how that impact fairs. You do your best? No, you say you do your best. One thing I've always been told, though it sounds corny, is that you can always do better. Since perfection has never been achieved, you can continuously strive towards it, and that results in doing better. I'm not asking you're to do everything like each other, I'm finding gaps in each in the staff may or may not do. Locking topics prematurely I have found recently to be one of the largest flaws in the staff (not all, but some). So, why not work to allow discussions to continue a while longer before locking it? I see Marforce has done that here. Kudos. The result is allowing me to have my word and say, otherwise I would not. You try hard, sure, why not. I can't say you don't, I'm not in that position. Though from my perspective, I would say a lot of you try hard. But you can't consciously try harder in an area you haven't realized, and I meant that thread to show you those areas. And again, no need for sarcasm. I'm perfectly aware of, well not life >.>, but how individuality works J

    That's all I have to say about it I think, unless I feel like saying more later.


    I welcome responses Logically, as I always have.











    Now for Marforce. You stated that I was carrying a previously locked discussion into another thread.

    Well, no, I wasn't.

    But if I was, it wouldn't matter. Draven and Kirbir both directly said I could.

    And btw, Logically's post above is dragging locked topics into another thread. Should I start crying and whining for her to be punished?

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    Locking a thread has to be done by a static or generally inappropriate nature of a thread. Its justice in your eye's, that is, if you are part of the majority, then it is for the greater good. So are you telling me that you believe you did it for the greater good? When has the staff solely stood for the greater good?


    Sure, I was watching it, but by no means closely. Even if I was, why does it matter? With me watching the topic closely, I couldn't prevent alterations. I might not even recognize alterations if done carefully. What's more is, me watching the topic didn't stop you from locking it.

    Don't undermine the staff's potential by looking at yourself Marforce. Where if you had wanted to alter the polls, you would have done it drastically, a more intelligent staff, or a lot of staff, would have the brains to alter and change it in measure. (have to keep it real, this is the flame section after all :P)


    So? That statement has no meaning of vital importance. It only means that it won't produce a fair or true view of the staff because nothing can. The community is large, yet the amount that post, are actively discussing, and even care is not enough to best represent the community. But that definitely does not mean that the topic wasn't constructive. Yes of course I didn't want xlink to post, he's part of staff. That said, I don't know the exact abilities of staff, so I had the right to do so. And he of course would defend staff, as I have already mentioned why I didn't want that. I automatically looked for other points of view by making a diverse bank of answers.

    Do you not understand CI's response?


    Actually, in that sense, much of staff, including you, are pathetic. I would recommend that you don't hurt the staff further; I have no idea why you would.

    And I agree with CI's statement. So far, you aren't showing your age in responses.


    I wasn't whining. All of you are saying I am whining and attacking consistently. Could you quote me on both accounts as many times as you can? I want to see how you would define those terms, and of course I would like to respond.


    I went about it in a way that would produce the fairest view. There is no such thing as the fairest view, as I have already explained. I have also explained, as has CI, why staff was required to stay out of the topic. It was to ensure a fairer discussion, and you attacking why staff couldn't post just contradicts this statement. It was a fairest discussion possible because the community could only take part of an unbiased polling and topic.



    And to answer a statement of yours on a previous page, no, I come back in the same mindset as before. Enjoy finding another reason to suspend/ban me (though I would recommend you try after I send the things I owe to everyone, suspending me it seems wasn't for the greatest good. So in your sense Marforce, it wasn't just? lol.)
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  11. Cheap_Indian

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    Lets keep this as a standstill.

    Between Buc and Dementia, there will be no winner nor looser.

    Both are equally circular in thoughts and are as headstrong as the other.

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    As for your swaggering offer Dementia; it means nothing.

    Even if you could find evidence of Buc arguing in a circle, he can find evidence of you and other staff members arguing the same way.

    It seems that you have found it necessary to retrogress to the stage where you use personal attacks. However, this is the flame room, but if you think they actually matter I can only quote you yourself to get my point across. "Your words also mean nothing to me, or this site, so therefore your opinion is null, and this argument is stupid."
     
  12. Majin

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    You've obviously been smoking some crack today.
     
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    Why can't we all be friends ^_^
     
  14. Arkasuss

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    I thought you left the site?

    I enjoyed your absence.
     
  15. Majin

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    I return on occassions like this.
     

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