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  1. aspectt

    aspectt Well-Known Member

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    Why is that that people have to get jobs over the summer to pay for their tuition.

    If I were you, instead of wasting all that time to pay like, a tiny bit of my tuition, I would be studying so that I could get some kinda scholarship, even if it was a small one.

    Reason being, even though you might have the money to pay for a tuition, your grades won't be good enough to get into a good university anyways. So why not study instead, and make it into a relatively good university with small/big scholarship? Unless someone's family is so poor they can't afford it AT ALL, there's really no point in getting a summer job and stuff. Right?
     
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    If you work and go to school colleges look at that.

    And wasting summer to study all the time?

    And do you know what the chances are getting a Full Scholarship, at Drexel its like 24k+ a year, now picture this you wasted all your time studying, no wok experience at all. And you didn't get a full scholarship, you got a half one, what are you gonna do, study some more
     
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    Working is guaranteed money, scholarships are generally small and don't add up to enough to cover the costs. Sure many university's offer large scholarships but they're generally based upon extra curricular activities, as well as grades. In order to receive them you need to volunteer a lot, not to mention you likely need to make a noticeable impact in your community.

    Your logic has a major flaw in the fact that you believe that your grades are what determines the scholarship. Fact is they do not. Once you get into the A to A+ average segment you need to do a lot more. In essence it is more efficient to make 4-5000$ at a summer job than it is to volunteer your time for a small opportunity at large scholarship.

    As for smaller scholarships, anything less than 1000$ I find to be irrelevant, the amount of time needed to achieve these are not worth it.

    For instance given my circumstances:

    First year univ:
    Graduated HS with 90% average.
    Received $1100 entrance scholarship based solely upon HS grades from my university.
    I was still responsible for ~8000$ in costs for the year.

    Second year univ:
    Changed schools and ended up in a ----- faculty.
    My GPA of 4.2/4.5 did not qualify for any scholarships.
    Thus far this year I have spent:
    7000$ tuition
    700$ parking
    1000$ textbooks
    ~150$/month on gas

    In my scenario, it was much better to work all summer in attempt to minimize the amount of money I had to borrow from a bank ( student loans are an idea, they're more of an investment and should not necessarily be thought of as a bad thing). Had I worked towards scholarships instead I may have only been able to 'earn' 2000 or so. Compare this to the 8000$ I made while working.
     
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    xlink GR's Tech Enthusiast

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    dude, I got accepted into the same school that my school s valedictorian goes to and I worked ~25 hours a week my junior and senior years. I even slacked off horrifically while in high school. I had a near 0% homeowrk average and depended on tests and quizzes to carry me.


    I'm going to assume you know relatively little about the college application process. Work experience looks REALLY good on college applications. If you're pulling off a 4.0 and working 20+ hours a week WHILE doing sports that looks rather good, probably better than a 4.4 and no work.

    and admittedly my GPA dropped like a rock my junior and senior years, but that's just because I didn't care. As it is right now, I've got 16k in scholarships, entered college as a sophomore and quite frankly tuition isn't that big of a deal.
     
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    what about FAFSA?
     
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    I was just wondering. university is still 4 years away.
     
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    Depends how much income you make within your household for the most part. Having FAFSA verified and working is a good combination. Because you can pay for separate things like books and other necessary items for course with your work money, while having FAFSA take on the role of paying some of the tuition. Or all of it if your household doesn't have that much money. Depends.
     
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    xlink GR's Tech Enthusiast

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    if you're white, of average height, average weight, come from a well off family, are heterosexual, and right handed the amount you'll be getting is almost 0



    I'll be blunt though, I'm damn fortunate. My dad's paying for the entirety of my tuition and books each semester so long as I maintain a good GPA and he's letting me keep my scholarship money. I'm also damn lucky that I got a scholarship for 16k. I'll be blunt, for my general ed, I'm going to a community college for a year(entered as a junior since i took a ton of AP/college classes during high school). Here in California it's only $20USD per unit, and I didn't want to leave home. I'm a nostalgic person. I'm seeing so many of my friends who left home saying they feel homesick and I for one am not homesick as I never left.
     
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    Interesting. I attend college in California too. What school do you go to?

    You know, at least you're willing to admit that you're fortunate. You are quite lucky to have it that good. I'm relying on loans and stuff to pay each semester off. It's going to be a pain to get through it once I graduate. Where do you live? I reside in a small city called Mountain View in Northern California (about 40 minutes south of San Francisco) and since this place is kind of small and restricted everyone wanted to bounce once they got their chance.
     
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    OCC in costa mesa. Lived here my whole life.

    to be honest, I was planning on having to make it entirely on my own. My dad basicalyl said he'd help me out as a graduation gift, it was entirely unexpected. I'd assumed he didn't really have the money for it ad he'd always said so in the past as his money was tied up greatly, but the last real estate boom had been very very good to him. He's retired now at the age of 55.
     
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    OMG! Are you f*cking dumb? Or has your white, upper-middle class attitude to live blinded you to the fact that not everyone lives in a 5 bedroom house, with 3 bathrooms, a swimming pool in a nice neighbourhood? Not everyone has everything handed to them on a f*cking silver platter.

    I'm not entirely sure how it works in US, but when I go to University, I'm looking at working full time in all my breaks, and walking out with a $20k+ loan.

    Maybe you should open your f*cking eyes a bit. Daddy may pay for all your bad luck in life, but some of us actually have to work.
     
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    Well it's good that you plan to maintain your grades and make it worth your father's while. There are a lot of brats out there who's parents just pay for them and they totally screw the parents over by slacking off in school. Really seems unfair sometimes. Not only to their own parents but other students that aren't that fortunate financially and have to work twice as hard for things like scholarships, grants, and loans. In most of those cases the school doesn't stand for it and puts the student on academic probation before they continue to slack the entire time. Well I'm assuming most schools would take that or a similar course of action.
     
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    well I will admit that I have been slacking off a fair bit too much, but I'm still maintaining a 3.6ish
    hoping to get it up next semester though.
    consider summer school + part time work during your breaks. you'll graduate around 1 semester sooner(or more) and in a real job you'll earn more in that semester than the loan difference and the interest tacked on top of it as compared to what you'd have gotten with additional hours at a low paying part time job
     
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    I'm pretty sure we don't have summer school in New Zealand. The way our Universities work is quite different. Pretty much why I don't plan on going. I can get a $100K+ a year job without University qualifications.
     
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    1. I'm not white
    2. I don't have 5 bedrooms
    3. I don't have 3 bathrooms
    4. I don't have a swimming pool
    5. I've never had anything handed to me on a silver platter
    6. I don't live in the US

    Get your facts straight please <3
     

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