Intel V.s. Amd

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  1. Creamlistner

    Creamlistner Well-Known Member

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    Its a never ending battle, gaming computers, music, video, documentation.
    Which processor is best for the overall task, and for each individual.

    Currently Intel Is leading the way with there processors, the new Quad core 2 processor, sounds great, but will It really help what you do on your PC?

    AMD Is known to be better towards games.

    So lets hear It, what do you think of them?
     
  2. xlink

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    they're both multibillion dolar corporations.
    they both exhibit characteristics of a monopoly.

    I buy from whomever has the better product at the price range I desire to buy at.


    systems I've had
    Intel Pentium I MMX @ 233mhz
    AMD K6 II(forgot speed)
    Intel PIII @ 450mhz(two of them)
    AMD Athlon XP @ 2.2Ghz(two)
    AMD Athlon 64 @2Ghz
    AMD Opteron 165 @2.6Ghz
    Intel Core 2 Duo @ 3.2Ghz

    I'm planning on getting another c2d in a few months and pushing that sucker to around 3.8GHz(the new 45nm penryn c2ds)

    here is my ranking of CPUS
    Intel 8086
    Intel 80286
    Intel 80386
    Intel 80486
    Intel Pentium
    Intel Pentium ---
    Intel Pentium II
    Intel PIII katmai/K6III(it was debatable though probably in the PIIIs favor)
    PIII copermine
    Athlon
    Athlon XP
    P4 northwoodC(but briefly)
    Pentium M
    Athlon 64
    later revisions of pentium M
    Athlon x2
    Core duo
    Core 2 duo
    Core 2 quad

    and the above said was a list of the fastest CPus for their time.

    personally I want x86 to die and PPC and/or spark to supersede it.


    first person to speak fallacies or to exhibit horrendous fanboyism gets the topic closed. There have been a few of these in the past and They've all ended the same way. For the record, Netburst was designed to hit stratospherically high clock speeds. The architecture always had poor integer performance but that's justifiable as FP performance is often more critical. No, don't say intel for office work, that's a myth, as netburst was poor at database work and mail merges. Netburst at launch was really strong in games and in multi-media work. A64 came in and beat it in most of everything, albeit no so much until 2005 when intel stopped increasing the P4s clock speed.
     
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    Creamlistner Well-Known Member

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    agreed
    Id love to get a new Quad Intel, just wish they didn't cost so much.
    Plus the fact that, what would my computer really do with all that? still be fun to say Ive got a 4 goer, lol
     
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    Xlink is right on the money ;)
    Personly I'm a fan of the Broadband architecture used in the ps3's Cell processor.
    It is basically a modified version of PPC, I would love for Intel or AMD to adopt it or IBM & Toshiba (the current producers of the chips, to consider them for PC use)
    As for sparc it has little use in games..but would be unstoppable in the business\office area.
    Probably wont happen but I wanna see some quantum processors :D
     
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    Like you said yourself, Intel is kinda leading now which means also leading with games atm. As for the quad processor thingy, there are very few applications/games that actually make use of all four cores. It is known that even alot of applications nowadays aren't even making full use of the dual core so...
     
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    you mean like how going from a dual core CPU to a quad increases performance in crysis by ~ 1%...

    IMO they should just be splinting programs into n^(n^(1/2)) threads where n is the number of cores... would work SOO well
     
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    Well, in about 3 days I will receive my first intel system, and i'm looking forward to it :) It will become the very needed system-upgrade i'm waiting for for the past 2 years.

    Old system:
    AMD Athlon 2100+ (1.73ghz)
    756mb DDR RAM (PC2100)
    Geforce 4 TI4400 128mb


    New system:
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (4x 2.4ghz) (i'm probably gonna push it to 3.2ghz)
    2046mb DDR2 RAM (PC2-6400)
    Geforce 8600GT (it's temporary, since i'm not that much of a gamer, this should do fine for now).


    My old system has no casefans, and one of the fans on the motherboard isn't active anymore. It's running with an open case for 3 years now, and it's still doing fine. I wonder if the intel-system is as good as the AMD-system. Only time will tell :D
     
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    I personally prefer intel. All the computer I've ever owned have been intel, except the one I am using now. It just doesn't seem as good as intel. I have an AMD right now.
     
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    I've always had AMD for gaming. And used Intel for office processing. It's like Chevy and Ford. They both have their good and bad. And it's your personal preference on what you wanna run. I don't have any complaints, or had problems with either.
     
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    for the past 10 years or so up until c2d AMD held a fairly solid lead in business apps. ^^
    then again most of the time CPU performance doesn't amtter all that much, especially when comapred to disc performance and on top of that performance doesn't matter so mucha s productive workers...

    but just correcting a wrong, AMD has traditionally held the integer(and thus general use and business apps) crown. intel traditionally had the floating point performance crown though, and in most things(video editing a lot fo graphic design, games and some other stuff) that is what matters.
     
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    well ive used intel mostyle apart from when i had an old amd sempron 900mhz it worked ok but ive generaly gone for intel since then
     
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    AMD vs Intel is the biggest waste of time argument in the consumer PC market ever.

    There have been times where AMD has had the lead, and times when Intel has had the lead. The cutting edge swings both ways, alternating. People who claim Intel are on the verge of knocking AMD out of the market are fools, who have no knowledge of the history of these two companies.

    Back when AMD released their first 64bit CPU's Intel had nothing to compete, and didn't for quite some time.

    This argument is pointless and boring. I say close it.
     
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    So True....

    One of the most noticeable upgrades i made to my system was using a raptor drive. I was blown away by the performance increase and wouldn't think of going back. Too many times people focus on a specific thing instead of the whole picture.
     
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    I wouldn't go that far. AMD is in a rather perilous situation. I'm hoping they make a comeback however.


    but really we'de all be better off if AMD dies, intel becomes a monopoly, gets ruled against, x86 dies and we all move to PPC and/or Sparc

    just my opinion though.
     
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    Well we will all know soon enough. AMD is about to release the new Phenom CPU and its suppose to be the competition for the core 2 series. Release date is Nov. 19.
     

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