What makes a great designer on GR?

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  1. .chester

    .chester Well-Known Member

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    I noticed one thing, and i'm sure a lot of people noticed it too: popular designers make big credits, no matter what they sell. Sure, i'm not gonna deny it, some of their stuff is nothing short of awesome. But then again, they can make a real crappy sig, and still it will sell for a lot of credits. I mean, even a tag with a few layers of smudging and some adjustment layers in between will sell for nothing less than 1000 credits.

    And then, there's the not-so-popular designers, who sometimes make awesome tags, but nobody will buy them unless they're absurdly cheap because the guy's not a popular designer here on GR.

    What's your stance on all this? Would you rather buy a mediocre tag from a well known designer or an awesome tag involving great techniques made by a designer you never even heard of?
     
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    thats the story of artwork
     
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    its a shame really, i consider myself sort of a legend in the gfx aspect of GR.
     
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    i only buy stuff if i liked it exualy, no matter if its from an famous artist or an artist i never heard off,
     
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    Dont bother selling on here. But its just the way the art world works mate. Always has always will.
     
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    So many topics like this before, it's the way things work. Names sell, quality doesn't.

    A black tshirt with a tiny nike tick is going to sell for twice the price of a plain black tshirt, same applies here.
     
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    Then let me know when you\'re ready to release some of your artwork *glances at 300-ish signature*

    Beauty is in the beholder, and the same applies for art. To me, I don\'t care what the price is: If I like it, i will buy it. A great artist is someone who is original, signature looks like it\'s actually been planned, and the signature looks good. At the end of the day, I don\'t care who you are or how long it took you to make it. If it doesn\'t look good, I\'m not going to buy it. A lot of people buy signatures based on the signature artist because they know they can (or use to be able to) tutorialize and make a profit, or give the signature/tutorial out for a lot of reputation.

    A lot of the so called professionals here at GameRenders are trendwhores with no unique style. MaynardsTOOL, Irrelevant, Atreyu, and even Pegasus at least had originality and good designs. Most of the shit I see in the auction room is a ton of c4d renders or so called abstract shit that seems to have no real meaning. I enjoy signatures that actually fit the theme of the stock they use: Halo 2 signature with a techish feel, World of Warcraft render with a war-feel, etc.

    And for the record, in all the artist for the last few months: FatherofGod and a few signatures by Cerebus are the only I like.

    Andrew
     
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    I actually dont care who makes the artwork, as long as it looks good in my opinion. I agree though that a lot of people just buy the name and no the actual quality. Same thing happens in real life, its all about brand names. You could have a no-name brand make an ounstanding product, but it wont sell compared to some lesser quality product of a big name company.
     
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    i tottaly agree with u!
     
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    Uhh, what?

    If I think one tag is better then another one, it's a obvious decision. Afterall, I want to buy a TAG, not a name.

    The problem is that people will pay more attention to a tag made by someone popular.

    Everyone is the same, I supose. And more views = More buys. If buyers looked closley to tags and payed less atention to names, I supose all would agree with you on this one.

    But it's the way things go. It's not smart or anything, but some people are inclined to think that way. Go figure it out. I myself pay little attention to names. Maybe because I make tags for fun, not because I want everyone to like them.
     
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    Great designer also includes activity and behavior imo. Anyway, I buy stuff I like, I don't buy tags from famous people just because they've a name (example = Haine, he only sells his stuff because he's Haine, lol)
     
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    ^ its true


    And behavior and activity has nothing to with being a great designer on GR, it does in real life, but not on GR

    Rogue had like 35-45 posts and he had 16k in credits, I had 200-300 posts when I had 14k, granted i do have another account but no one knows it I think. (beside mods and admins of course)

    As fir behavior wise, I am not gonna call out anthing
     
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    all correct.
    the C4D ---- was good when it was first developing and wasnt big. as Andrew said, MaynardsTOOL, Irrelevant, Atreyu were all very original developing it but its to over used.
    also it has to do with how long people will hold on to that certain style. for an example, the grunge sigs from 2 or so years ago. people were manufactoring those and whoring them out because they were the best looking at the moment.
    now take a look at the signature section,
    do you see any grunge sigs?
     
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    People still make grunge tags, but they don't do it with downloaded brushes. About the "what makes a great designer on gr" popularity does tbh. Theres been many instances where a popular person can make a tag with a stock,add some c4d, and bam that sells for almost 2k credits. But the more decent ones that have great techniques won't even sell unless it's for like 200 credits. It's a shame.. In the auction room, I see some of the plainest looking sigs sell for 1.3k+. I don't buy tags, but if I did I'd stay away from the popular people like the plague. Btw, about the clothing. I'd buy a nice pair a jeans or a cool shirt from a un popular brand, If all you did was buy from Nike,Enyce,etc. You'd be broke or pretty damn close to,lol.
     

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