What If... God Didn't Exist?

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  1. I_R_BACK_I_R_LOSER

    I_R_BACK_I_R_LOSER Well-Known Member

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    Jesus christ you're a ------tard.
     
  2. ferret

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    OK, for those of the "Bible has so many mistakes in it" crowd, show them? Broken's raised a point, but that point is more of a misunderstanding of how the Gospel is written. The rest are "lol its got so many mistakes what i believe is better," in essence--back it up? So far, none of you have raised a conclusive point--the only one of you that has even made an attempt to back up what you say is Broken.

    ZeRo, what about other holy books? Are you implying that there is another without error?
     
  3. Fargo2003

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    The Bible has NO mistakes at all. Yes there are proof that you love your mom and your dad or your brother. It's called your actions. If you do something for your mom or dad to appreciate them for who they are thats Love. Love can be shown in actions. Those who are true Christians show love to one another around the world telling people about the greatness of Jesus Christ's love for the world by their actions and their words. Our love for god is show out of a Christians heart. Also for those who "claim" to be Christians don't do that, you just make your self look dumb. I've seen a couple people do this already. We must remember that the Bible was written by approximately 40 different authors over a period of around 1500 years. Each writer wrote from a different perspective, to a different audience, for a different purpose. We should expect some differences! However, a difference is not a contradiction or an error. It is only an error if there is absolutely no conceivable manner in which the verses or passages can be reconciled.
     
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    Here's a guy with some senses.
     
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    [Sorry, I didn't read the last page. Mod, please delete this.]
     
  6. Broken

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    There's a book, Templar Legacy.
    Written in the same vein as Angels and Demons.
    It mentions something towards the end of the book, when they're discussing Christianity and how each of the books of the new Testament records the resurrection of Jesus, and other fairly important details in a completly different manner then each other. Even details down to what job Jesus had. etc. Which I hardly see can be a matter of opinion over fact.

    However, I don't have a Bible at the moment. So there's no need for me to press the point until I've got conclusive evidence.



    When we come to "The Bible has NO Mistakes at all"
    How do we actually know? Fact is, none of us were around at that time, we can't tell if it's all made up or truly the Actions/Words of Jesus and what followed. Hence why it boils down to faith, I don't have the faith to put my life into something I can't guarantee, some people do. And in the end, we really shoudn't care.

    People are still the same regardless of their religion, if someone is going to go murder 100 people if they are Christian, Buddhist, Atheist, Muslim, or anything else it's hardly going to reflect in how they act. You can't explain Faith, no matter how hard everyone seems to try, any form of emotional response is going to be entirely different to another person.

    Some people truly won't understand why Christians have faith in the existence of god, some Christians truly won't understand how people can denie god and be Atheist. We all interpret life in our own way, pushing each others beliefs on each other causes nothing but trouble.
     
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    I thi nk there is an omni one presense that is higher then any other being in the Universe also known as God and we are his children

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  9. Fargo2003

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    Here is an answer for a few people..

    The Bible even says that we must accept by faith the fact that God exists, “And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him” (Hebrews 11:6) However, the existence of God cannot be proven or disproved. If God so desired, He could simply appear and prove to the whole world that He exists. But if He did that, there would be no need for faith. "Then Jesus told him, 'Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed'” (John 20:29).
     
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    It is not just the seas, the mountains, the rivers and the skies which are a proof for the existence of our Creator, but also ourselves. Allaah says in the Qur'aan:

    "On the earth are signs visible to all who have faith with certainty, just as there are signs within your ownselves. Will you then not see?"
    (Surah Adh-Dhariyat 51:20-21)

    But when we think about these long intestines being inside of us, it astounds and amazes us. The human brain is thought to be more powerful that any mainframe computer on earth, whilst the eye is said to be more complex and structured then any telescope invented by man. The human mind is something which is still undiscovered by psychologists and psychiatrists, and the nature of our dreams and thoughts is something which these people will probably never unravel. So we should ask ourselves, is it still possible for such a complex being such as ourselves, to be a mere product of chance, or rather, are we products of a supreme and skillful creator, who has shown us that he really is The supreme creator?

    The proofs for the existence of a creator are so numerous that it would take us a very long time to go through every single one. So finally we should remember, that the creation of humanity was neither an accident, nor a development from monkey to man. Rather it was the creation of Allah the Most High, the Most Perfect, who reminds us of the stupidity of those who claim that He did not create us:

    "Were they created of nothing? or were they perchance, their own creators? or did they create the heavens and the earth? surely they have no firm belief."
    (Surah At-Tur 52:35-36)

    Just something i was reading before :) [bare in mind I am Muslim]

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    Thats the really only thing i could agree with about islam..Is they have the belief in a creator such as Christians and Jews and etc.. Ya know. But i don't agree with any Islamic belief.
     
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    and I bet you think white's are the supreme race and the only ones going to heaven, and black ppl are the mark of kaine. Oh yea your a fool my friend and your not a christian if you believe just because ppl are doing exactally what god gave us the right to do by questioning humanized religion.

    It's a very good thing to question everything because if we are sent here to be on the quest for a higher knowledge how are supposed to gain knowledge without questioning? Some have found evidence that strays them away from your belief and you have the balls to say something like that? yeah your a tolerant pre-pubecent that needs to sit back and let the adults talk while you try not to cry with the binky in your mouth.
     
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    Where did race come in? Rather generalizing of you...

    Also, got any of this proof/evidence that strays away from his belief?

    A post like that has no place in this debate. Sit back and let the adults talk while you try not to cry with the bottle in your mouth.
     
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