America Vs. Iran

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  1. dinges

    dinges Senior Member

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    k, just ran into this, it's probly just rumoures, but it seems inevitable that America and Iran will start fighting in the near future.



    what are your thoughts on the subject?
     
  2. Assquatch

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    It's possible...
    They haven't responded positively to being told to discontinue their enrichment programs, so military action is probably going to be the next step.

    I don't support going to war, but if it will prevent a nuclear war, then I say go for it.
     
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    Won't happen, especially not after they just released the British soldiers that they captured in their waters. Not to mention the USA's military is over stretched and cannot support another illegitimate and poorly planned war.
     
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    I think it's still a possibility.

    Though, like you mentioned, it would be a poor decision right now due to where the US has placed there troops right now.
     
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    It's both a possibility and something that could never happen. Iran has had a grudge with the US since the Iranian revolution of the 1950s through the 1970s. With the US support of the Iranian Shaw (King, in some ways), the new religiously-driven president might have a grudge against the US for its Western influences. At the same time, keep in mind that Ahmadnijad released the troops merely as a gift for Easter and the celebration of the birth of Muhammad, the prophet of Islam. Politically, one could say he did this as an act of appeal, keeping in mind that Iranian allies like Syria are continuously trying to calm Iran down from pushing the conflict any further. Afterall, Israel is still in somewhat of a military prime state and it isn't just the US anymore. The UN and it's Security Council members are riding all over Iran's tail, so it wouldn't necessarily be a smart move on their part.
     
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    i believe it can happen, look at the british prisonners. true they where in iranian waters, but the diplomatic pressure forced the government to release them. iran will end up at war with someone, and then allies and people with things to defend will join in..... there goes the world.

    im glad at least they take defensive measures, like a missile shield. i dont believe offense should be taken now but i might be necessairy later on. i dont think the US can handle 2 wars at once though, even if they are close by.
     
  7. ferret

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    Wrong. ~130,000 in Iraq, ~25,000 in Afghanistan, ~25,000 permanately in Korea. Forces in Germany can be moved to spots like Iran, stateside units could be called up, reserve/national guard could be called up. 180,000 is only a fraction of the combat forces we've got. The others still exist, a fact convienently ignored by the "HOLY ---- WE CAN'T SUPPORT OUR COMMITMENTS BECAUSE OF IRAQ" crowd. The US military is prepared. Failing that, a couple of air strikes could waste most of Iran's combat power in somewhere around 72 hours. Though, if something does happen, either Iran will have to ---- up big time and attack someone or the UN will have to grow back the pair of balls it used to have and step up instead of playing the write-a-piece-of-paper-at-it game.

    Though, since Iran continues to defy UN Security Council resolutions (sound familiar), nothing will come of it.

    The American public is not. It has yet to get used to the fact that people tend to die in wars, nor has it gotten used to the fact that supporting a war until something bad happens (read: public opinion shifts as people begin to die) pisses all over whatever legitimacy that said politicians had. The American public has yet to realize that their local congresscritters were the people that voted for the war, regardless of what is said to gain votes. The American public has yet to give the respect due to those fighting for it; I would know. I stood at my cousin's funeral in March listening to "Bush lied, Ryan (my cousin) died." The American public has yet to set agendas aside and realize that this party-affiliated bull---- has got to stop; when half of Congress votes against something because it was from the opposite party, Congress is not doing its job.

    As for the Brit sailors (forgetting the fact that the original Iranian position [the one that coincideded with UK/Iraqi reports] was in Iraqi waters and was changed hours later realizing that...): sure, a few rubber boats and a small group of guys are invading Iran. Sound the alarm! It was the Revolutionary Guard flexing its muscle again; they did it to US troops in Iraq in 2006, starting a firefight and killing three Iraqi troops working with the Americans, wounding a US soldier, and killing an unknown number of themselves. Add that to the Basij and Qud forces operating in Iraq and we can start talking about who is invading others' territory.
     
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    xlink GR's Tech Enthusiast

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    no...

    America cannot sustain another millitary occupation.

    It could easily sustain another war(short term).

    especially when considering that a draft has not been implemented.
     
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    1. War in Iraq isn't poorly planned, immoral, or bad in anyway. Learn about it.
    2. You don't seem to get how big and powerful the U.S. is, do you? We have enough man power and power in general to last through another war or two. We also have enough nuclear bombs that we can use it (god forbid) to end god knows how many wars. America can sustain it if need be.
     
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    the war wasn't poorly planned...

    the occupation was.
     
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    the war on iraq itself was planned good, but the ocupation isn't going as smoothly as planned. That'll probly happen in Iran too if the Americans don't watch out.
    ANother major problem is that the muslims are divided in two groups (don't know the english names) and these are diveded 20% - 80% in Iraq, but completely the opposite way in Iran. The 80% in Iraq is cooperating with the American atm, but when (not if) America invades Iran there's a high chance of these 80% of Iraq turning against them. then they'd have two whole countries that will fight a guerilla-war and use bombings.
    My oppinion is that Iran needs to be stopped, but they better plan this one very carefully
     
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    prob all america does is start wars
     
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    wow becks, that's a well argumented statement you have there <_<
     
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    I say kill anyone who starts a war..

    All they want is take anothers territory OR if one country is planning on going superior than another - Not mentioning any names but why does US wana get rid of iran's nuclear capabilities? because they might make nuclear weapons? well from my knowledge the majority of countries have got nuclear weps. including US.

    If iran do make them US most likely wont attack because of it..and if they do start a war..then nuclear warfare = human extinction - These superior people wont think about us human beings but think about war solely even if it means Earth = dead for everyone

    I hate these stupid wars..over petty stuff - Another note that my lecturer said - US are running out of oil and guzzzling so much that in say 10years time they will run out however the middle eastern countries have got oil to last another 100-200+ years so..hm a fact and a reason to think on

    The largest oil reserves i think was up in north america & NOT U.S. with middle eastern countries with 3 times the amount of North america

    http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0872964.html << Look where US is :)

    Iran has more oil than iraq with canada up there as well

    O well its all about oil i would say & making US the top country in the world but when their reserves runout they will have to try and take over - Thats how i see it

    DARKSTAR
     
  15. Morv

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    When will people start realising that humans have allways fought in wars. Wars are inevitable, deal with it.
    Just look at Belgium. Thousands of wars have been fought on Belgiums' soil.. yet Belgium is one of the best places to live. (Education, economy, beer :lol: chocolate :lol: chips :lol: and crime etc.)
    So, although wars are terrible, there are positives to it aswell.

    Julius Caesar once said :
     

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