Seen them twice in the passed two months [but like 8th time ever] When i saw them last in London and Toronto with .moneen. and rise against, they didn't do as well as they have in the passed. Their cd's are basically the same imho. my friend once said "you can listen to [Billy Talent], then listen to [Billy Talent II], then [Billy Talent], and it feels like you haven't change the cd at all." Worker Bee's is my favourite.