I didn't say abortion was right, I'm against abortion, but the death penalty is right. It's called justice.
Justice was sure served to Saddam, but I still think it was a waste. If they ever catch Osama would they try him, and kill him or find out what information he can give, and lock him away? Think about killing someone sometimes makes things worse than better. In Saddams case nothing changed, just gave us something to talk and debate on.
lol, i knew that this thread would become a bush-flaming thread. ok, bush and bin Laden are working together. Obviously. Bush is becoming very popular. bin Laden is glad he has to live the rest of his life on the run. Think of all the things bin Laden can give to Bush. wait. um, Osama has nothing to give to Bush... Surely, both of these people are getting something good out of this...actually nope. WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT BUSH AND OSAMA ARE WORKING TOGETHER WHEN BOTH ARE SUFFERING DUE TO EACH OTHER????!!!!! For those of you who are accusing only "republicans" of supporting teh death penalty. Here is a compilation of Gallup polls which show that most Americans support the death penalty. To support the death penalty and to be prolife is NOT contradictory. Capital punishment is killing who deserve it and abortion is killing someone who has done nothing wrong. Hanging Saddam was a humane way to end his life. It was instant. He did not suffer. People see much more gruesome ways to die all the time. People who are sick and dying, people who suffer bullet wounds, people who are cooped in a cement block for years and years until they just waste away.
Well dude, when you've got to pay taxes on scumsuckers like Saddam to live their lives out in relative stability in a nice cell with three meals a day, you'll appreciate the death penalty a lot more .[/sarcasm] Those "same people" see a distinction. You, on the other hand, do not. There's where the difference lies. Ignorance truely is bliss. Read the stated goals and reasons of the invasion. WMDs just happened to be the most crowd-pleasing one out of the bunch - a war is won or lost over public support. Things like freedom for the Iraqi people, removal and punishment of a war criminal, and even a threat to American stability (in the form of the Iraqis allowing Ansar al-Islam - a terrorist group headed by our late friend al-Zarqawi and also a branch of al-Qaeda - into the country in 2000; same reason we invaded Afghanistan [harboring terrorists]. Did you know that they had chemical weapons in the Ansar al-Islam camp? You know, those WMDs that everyone fails to realise exist and were found in Iraq?). You know, those things that America happens to stand for and has made war over for the past 200 years? --- The American Justice System allows the taking of another's life in: - War - The protection of America and her interests - Self-defense of oneself or in the protection of another (example: man has a weapon and is a threat to another person) With my state's laws, around ten feet or closer with a knife will result in a gunshot(s) into the person. Guns are a given, bats/chains/other weapons are in the same area as the knife. Equivilant force is the key - don't shoot in a fist-fight unless it's a threat to someone's life (slamming someone's head against a curb or something). I can go deeper into the laws, but I won't here as it's way off-topic. If you popped a person you watched murder another, you have to deal with: - Murder laws (you did not go through the law) - Assumed Risk laws (you did not make an effort to stop it if you were carrying a weapon - a grey area, but some states have them) You had the duty to attempt to stop the murder and let the police handle it. You did not have the right to kill someone unless it was right then when the woman was being murdered, in which case you would have had the duty to attempt to stop it. For the abortion deal (it'd be wise to make a seperate thread on this if you want to discuss it), the only two real reasons a child should be aborted are: - Woman was raped - Threat to the woman's life The rest are just running away from somebody's stupidity.
No one was accusing only them for supporting the death penalty. Just thinking of how they are profile and support it. It's odd. I don't really think there is anything humane about killing someone. Killing them is killing them no matter how do it, and some ways are less messy than others. BTW would these same people support the death penalty if it was someone they loved being put to death. And do you really think that people believe that people think those 2 guys are working together? (well my mom does, I dunno how that works.) She thinks he knew it was gonna happen lol.
Saddam was handed to the Iraqis in August of 2006. That's custody. The trial was from 2004 to late 2006, with an appeal in late December. His appeal didn't work, and according to Iraqi law, he was hanged within thirty days of his conviction. The US had no part in the trial other than his custody through most of it. I know for a fact that if I had a family member who was a murderer, I'd watch the execution myself.
IMO i didnt think the death penalty should have happened. id rather pay for him to stay in jail, because of two reasons 1. if you kill him he doesnt really suffer at all if you put him in jail he's going ot have to live without anything for who knows how long. and if you put him in solitary confinement then he'll go nuts. 2. killing him is sinking to his level. he murdered and now the ppl who killed him murdered. and killing him didnt really prove or do anything, okay he's off earth he's dead now what? if he's in prison at least he's paying in some way ie suffering psychologgically.
Not really sinking to his level. The Iraqis gave him a fair trial, something he never gave his victims. They also treated him as a common criminal, giving him dignity that he never gave (this affected him psychologically if you couldn't tell from his court outbursts). The Iraqis can't risk life imprisonment on somebody as high-profile as Saddam right now. It's too unstable. They did what they had to do.
*sigh* Funny how one controversial topic leads to so many others such as bush, the death penalty, and abortion of all things. And those of you who stated that Bush and Osama are working together.. that's the dummest thing I have ever heard...actually the dummest thing was Zee saying that the death penalty and abortion are the same thing. Now Zee you also said that no one cared or talked about Iraq until now. Since you said something like that I'm going to assume that you are probably 15 or so because when George Bush Senior was in office we had the first Gulf War. And ever since people have said that we should have taken Saddam out of power. But I served in the first war and am currently on leave during the second. All you know what is happening over there is what you hear on the news. What they don't tell you is schools are being built, people who had their hands cut off so they couldn't vote are now voting. People dance in the streets when our hummers come into town. All you hear about is the few soldiers that lose their lives. But those men and women would not want it any other way. We know the risks but that is why we took the job so that you can state you own opinion and not be persecuted for it. People over there are just now getting running water into their homes. It's a terrible thing that these people have gone through. And I can tell you through my own personal experience that with Saddam out of the picture, the war will soon come to an end. rant over
