What Is Art And What Is Not.

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  1. Zee

    Zee Active Member

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    Art is something that took time to create from scratch and that means something to you. If someone else doesn't think it's art then who cares? If I remember right one famous artists work wasn't concidered art until after he died. Wen he was alive they said he was worthless.
     
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    I agree that tags are just as much art as a large piece is.

    If I do exactly what I did on a tag on a larger canvas that makes it art? It has to be big to be art? No.

    And I don't agree with saying that using C4D's etc. is not your own work. If you've just shoved a whole bunch on then yeah it's not really your work. The way I see it that's the same as if you were to do a painting on a canvas, you didn't make those colour paints so it's not your work, you didn't make those oil pastels so it's not your work. That may be exhageratted a little but that is how see it.

    Tags are Art.
     
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    Art is the physical appearence of your imagination.

    You think it, you make it, you call it art.
     
  4. Zee

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    Thats a really good way of saying what it is. Also I think anything that makes you think about something just by looking at it.
     
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    everything someone makes is art, whether u make it with cheese or a paintbrush it is still considered art :)
     
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    We'll In all opion I just never thought of tags being art.

    I mean some are. Like realism.
    But alot of tags aren't lately I see alot of random stuff done with non purpose and on the tuts(OMG I USED A TUT) it said "pen in a shape, and PLACE IT WHERE IT LOOKS GOOD".

    So No i don't consider most tags real art. Because most tags don't try to be art.

    In most art there needs to be inspriation and emotion. Most tags are mostly emotionless and don't really show anything that is a a quality of art. But as i've said it can be art. It depends on the tag.
     
  7. nuetronist

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    Art is everything. Poetry, speech, talking, tag making, I believe its all art. Some forms of art may be more, how to say it, rough/unrefined or whatever, but in the end its still an art.
     
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    Art is= style creativity and flow. Your style and your way. Tags are a little popular bar you can wear to show what you do of what u use. U make it it IS art. Doesn't require much but its a neat work of art. :) thats my idea
     
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    Tags or Sigs are considered digital art.

    If you think about the literal meaning of the word "art", then EVERYTHING is art. Walking is an ART that we must learn as a child, is one example.
     
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    yea, it comes in many different forms and ways, 3d, graphically, painted, hand made, almost anything you can images.
     
  11. SM Infinity

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    I agree with everything Gurly said, even if I do some of that stuff :lol:

    You create it, you can call it what you want. But actually, using someone elses brushes may be considered art, after all, when you paint with a paintbrush you didnt make the brush nor the paint :huh:
     
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    I think you're thinking about van Gogh. In his era everything was about realism and his paintings were considered worthless. Died poor in a mental hospital without ever selling even one of his paintings. Today they are worth a fortune.

    Art is in the eye of the beholder. If one people think it is art, then it is for him. And Phainted, what you're talking about is not tags that aren't art, you're talking about bad art. Just as 99% of all paintings probably is bad art.
     
  13. Sapphire Blade

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    everybody is about to hate me for what i'm about to say...
    no, tags are not "true" art imo. I consider art to be anything of "your" own imagination taking the form of one (or more) of the 5 senses (taste=cooking etc, sight=visual art etc, touch=art with texture, hearing=music etc...exclude smell). Not that it doesn't take imagination/creativity/skill to create tags/sigs, just that the central theme of it is based off of someone else's work. Tags with people, are my exception to this...i consider these 100% art. They are still art, i just wouldn't consider them the pieces of the sig/tag maker. Sure, you add a bg, some colors to the render and some effects/lighting...but the focus of the sig/tut isn't really the bg, it is the render itself and how well you have made effeacts and a bg that suites it.

    Straight to the point- do i consider them art, yes and no

    no
    you could not sell a tag/sig for real, without the authorization of whoever created the image that it is based on (talking about games/cartoons etc), or without the tag/sig being made for the true owner of the render (be it a company or a person).

    so when i see things like FR, it kind of irks me...you cannot truely claim it to be of your own creation, therefore the term full rights is void.

    the only rights you can give are basically public domain.

    yes
    it takes alot of skill, patience and creativity to make sigs. To manipulate colors, effects and add a bg takes talent and a knowledge of contrasting elements along with the fundamentals of appealing to the public.

    I do see alot of great sigs/tags on this site, and some people who have great potential.

    above all, art is art...it is to be openly praised and criticized, and what is art, is ultimately up to you to decide.
     
  14. Sapphire Blade

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    you can easily make a brush and paint, watercolor is really simple to make :wacko:
     
  15. del_murder

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    good point but in real life we do use other people's work and it's still considered as art
    ex. painting (you know pencils and stuff...)
     

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