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  1. Moch+

    Moch+ Well-Known Member

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    The idea on how time is measured and what time it is now...you're trying to tell me man didn't make that? Benjamin Franklin didn't create day light savings?
     
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    OK, I know that your comments were intentionally facetious, but you did say that this was a 'science' thread...


    Planets orbit stars.
    Elecrtons orbit nuclei.

    And that is where the similarity ends. You can't say that a solar system is similar to an atom by simply comparing a model of an atom and a model of a solar system. A model of an atom in the sense that you mention (Bohr model) is not a realistic depiction of the way an atom operates - it's just one of many useful representations of the basic structure of an atom. Heisenberg's uncertainty principle tells us that we can never correctly model an atom because it's impossible to know where an electron is and where it's going at any one point in time, so to look at a model of an atom and say: "this is how an atom looks like", is foolish.

    Anyway, to prevent this topic drowning under a wave of quantum complications, lets just say that whereas the orbitals and behaviour of planetary systems are mathematically predictable, anything modelled at a subatomic level is not and therefore the comparison between atoms and solar systems is utterly false.

    EDIT: Oh and to say that time was 'invented' by man, is like saying Newton 'invented' gravity. Bad English.
     
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    I most certainly think such a thing is possible.
     
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    What? Exaplin, you think what is possible? time travel? What basis do you have for this statement?
     
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    this is one interesting discussion, I like science but not really into physics. keep the discussion rolling
     
  6. FM Lawlhalla

    FM Lawlhalla Senior Member

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    lol luckiy there are people like this one tht make my life so fun..


    no the big bang didnt create time, time was before the big bang.

    im not sure if time was before everything

    maybe time got created by something or someone.
    i dont know.
    im atheist so for me its not god.
    but well, anyone his own oppinions on that.
     
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    Maybe theres no such thing as time. I think its what we describe something that has already passed.
     
  8. FM Lawlhalla

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    if there is no such thing as time everything would be happenng at the same time, and nothing would go wrong.
    what a perfect world that would be.

    EDIT: o and you outsmart yourself lol

    if there is no time, how can you say that : "we describe something that has already passed"

    then it will never pass. it will happen always

    if you can even say always anymore when time is gone.
    pff.
    w're going int cirles here,

    to a few people i advise you check out the 10 dimensions flash movie.
    http://www.tenthdimension.com/
     
  9. Stealth09

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    Okay lets put it this way, we use meters/feet and all that ---- to make measurements right, sso we invented distance?

    If we didn't invent that the space or distance would still be there would it not?
     
  10. FM Lawlhalla

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    we were already past that i think ;)
     
  11. ChiefNX

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    Your tripping yourself up there by using the word 'time' twice. :)
     
  12. FM Lawlhalla

    FM Lawlhalla Senior Member

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    hmm, dam n right you are :blink: :rolleyes:

    edit: lol find me another word lol
     
  13. Moch+

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    I understand that man didn't create time itself, I said in my post that man created how we measure time. Time is interesting though because think about it like this, what's time to an animal? Nothing.
     
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    How would you know? You ever ask an animal whether time matters?
     
  15. FM Lawlhalla

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    time is the same for an animal as for a human.
    time just is
     

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