Death, Or Life?

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  1. RebelYell101

    RebelYell101 Well-Known Member

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    Okay, death penalty or not? Personally if you kill someone, I think you should be killed back. Whether that sounds barbaric or not. The death penalty is in the Bible and also says an eye for an eye. Which means, if you murder someone, you should have your life taken.

    Okay, enough about my opinion, yours? Also, please give a logical reason not, "HAH, it's in the Bible it must be wrong!" , or "I just don't think it's nice to kill someone." It wasn't very nice for them to kill someone else, or many other people. Why should his fate be any diffrent then his victims? It shouldn't be.
     
  2. kirbir

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    I think they should keep their life to be honest, let them suffer the consequences of their actions for the rest of their life.

    Why should we stoop down to their level and kill them? We would only end up as bad as them.
     
  3. Dr. Agon

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    Only thing I don't like about the death penalty is how slow it is :/ imo someone who took another persons (presumably innocent) life should hav maybe one chance with like 20 years in prison, then after that just kill them. Keeping murderers alive is a waste of money and food imo
     
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    So, we should let them end a person's life? But let them live? That's not fair to his victims.
     
  5. [.BC.] Aedus

    [.BC.] Aedus Well-Known Member

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    If you murder someone, then you should be given the death penalty. If you murder 1 person there is no reason that you wouldn't murder another, keeping them alive is a risk to everyone in the remote area of them once released from prison. If they have such a desire for malice or even murdering then removing thier life is the safest option.


    If you manslaughter on the otherhand, then there should be no death penalty, just a prison sentence.

    Most people know the difference but for those who don't:

    Murder - Killing someone with an intent to

    Manslaughter - Killing someone by your own stupidity I.e. Drink driving, but no real intent to kill.
     
  6. kirbir

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    Yes, why stoop down to their level and become as bad as those?

    I say let them live with the consequences of what they have done.

    They stay in prison for the rest of their life without a chance of parol. That would be harsher punishment then killing them imo. Can you imagine being stuck in prison for the rest of your life.

    Also what if this killer was an innocent driver and say some kid ran out into the road and there was no way he could stop. Does he deserve the death penalty also?
     
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    If thats what u think it is.

    The man had Sin, because he killed somebody.

    If the thing u said on the top part that if anyone take a life, his life will be taken too.

    Well if u will do that, its the same to as u commit a sin, coz no one can take life, but only HE (The God Above) can.
     
  8. Lennox

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    We're not all christian, so law should not abide by Christian principles.

    Let them rot in jail for the next 50 years in solitary confinement. Its much more suitable punishment. Death is the easy way out with no pain and suffering.
     
  9. zabiMARU.

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    Just put them on Death Row for 16 years.

    oh wait they already do that xD

    Death Row for life.
     
  10. AdReNaLiNe†

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    The murderer should have to live in solitary confinement his/her whole life and live with what he/she has done. Sentencing them to death would be the easy way out.
     
  11. Stealth09

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    Murder rate and the death penalty do not prove cause and effect.

    What advantage does the death penalty give? Would you rather be cooped up in a cell, and possibly raped constantly for years, or dead.

    Most mass-murders (in Canada) will be classified as "Dangerous Offenders" and will NOT be eligible for parole ever. They will sit in a jail cell for the rest of their lives.

    There have been many cases (R. v. Milgaard) where the accused was convicted, then later proven innocent. If the death penalty was in place, Milgaard would have been killed before he was proven innocent.

    The most common misconception is that when someone commits an act of murder they will associate it with the punishment, but when someone murders someone (1st degree pre-meditated) they don't plan on getting caught.

    Now, we can't ever be 100% sure that someone is guilty and therefore the state would be allowed to kill innocent people. Accidentally or not, the person would have been screwed by the justice system that was put in place to protect them, not kill them.

    Now I know that someone is going to say the cost of keeping someone alive is too great, and they mine as well be killed so I'll answer that now. The cost of appeals (mandatory when a death sentence is issues) is estimated to be around $150,000 in attorney fee's, ect. That doesn't include the fee's that would have been needed if a death sentence was not issued, nor does it include the cost of the time on death row, or the lethal injection itself.

    For those of you saying "Put them in solitary..." think before you speak... the point in prisons is rehab, not torture. Now first off everyone in Canada after 15 years can apply for parole (unless convicted of multiple life sentances). You put someone in solitary for 15 years and they end up getting through parole, that person is going to be in one of two situations. So ----ed up they don't give a ---- about anyone's lives and go on a rampage, or pissed off at the government and go ape ---- and go on a rampage.

    For the last damn time Religion has NO place in the state. Not everyone follows the same religion, and if you include religion into the state you run the risk of a loss of freedom of religion. Religion is just used by people to help an argument they usually have no basis for.
     
  12. Blade7

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    I believe Part of the human life is to move on.

    Yes, someone was killed, but we shouldnt kill the murderer. If we do, does that mean that murderer's brother or sister or cousin or friend or whoever! has the right to kill you?

    Someone has to stop the cycle or else....

    hey guys remember the TRIGUN! quote and it went along the lines of....

    No one has the right to kill anyone.
     
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    It's not fair to kill the murderer.
    He doesnt deserve to get of lightly (although you may not agree, death penalty is light), once he/she is dead what do they care? They're gone. You leave them in prison to rot if you want real revenge.
     
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    I totaly agree with that :)
     
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    I wrote a LARGE discursive essay about this a while ago, and I am against the death penalty. I dont have much time though, so I'll just quickly summarise.

    If someone has done a terrible crime, it is better for them to live a miserable life than die. I am not afraid of dying, but I would not like to spend my days in prison. Infact, I would prefer to be killed. Therefore, I think we shouldn't use the death penalty.
     

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