Explain Thyself!

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  1. RebelYell101

    RebelYell101 Well-Known Member

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    That's fine. But, why are you saying that? God, would be a perfect being. Humans obviously are not perfect. Why would something non-perfect be able to do something better then the perfect being? That just doesn't make sense.
     
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    Mr. Rebel poses a good point. If God is perfect, so is His love, and if he's giving it to us, wouldn't that mean it's more perfect than a mother's love? We are incapable of feeling perfect love, but everything about God is perfect (you've already accepted the fact that I'm a Christian, so understand where I'm coming from here)
     
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    God doesn't create disease, but our sin does?
    SO its NOT microbes and bacterium then hm? So If I go and murder someone, I may get rabies and die? You have got to be failing Science.
     
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    ^ lol agreed.

    RebelYell101 - god may be perfect in your eyes but not in mine, yes no-one is perfect and i will not disbute that but neither is god, if god was a perfect being and if he truly was here he would stop all the wars, hurt and pain and make the world a perfect place to be in.
     
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    God in every religion is a perfect being. I don't know what you are talking about, but you don't need to believe in religion to know that the idea of God is that he is a perfect being. He has the ability to do things we could never accomplish, such as have more love than a mother.

    He loved us enough to send his only son to earth to be killed so the fate of mankind could be saved.
     
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    Again i will say, that is your opinion and what you believe in, whereas i am a non believer. I do not believe that god is perfect as i do not believe that god loves a child more than its mother.

    You say he sent his only son down here to be killed, that would also make him a murderer in my eyes
     
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    So, god didnt kill me? My sin did, since I murdered someone.

    Let me ask you, your...malicious god, when somebody completely innocent gets killed...why does that happen exactly? Why should the innocent die for other peoples sins.

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    He sent his son down to earth to die, but 10000s of soldiers were sent to war to fight for our future ; so it's hardly the ultimate sacrifice is it? I mean, SO many people have done it...what makes Jesus so special? Id rather live in sin then be controlled by some random country.
     
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    i have done religous education for 2 years and i think i can safely say, that there is no God in my opinion. Hwo anyone can believe in something that no one credible has ever seen is beyond me. There is absoultely no proof that he was real, however there is actual proof that he is not, which again how can you argue so strongly he is real. How anyone can say he is perfect is beyond me too because if he is perect then how come he couldnt create a perfect world. How come there is so much evil in the "perfect god's" creation.
     
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    there is such a thing as perfect?
     
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    Well, those soldiers aren't God in the flesh. If you can't see the diffrence, please stop posting.

    God doesn't make bad things happen, he allows them, when we don't seek his help. Satan makes bad things happen. There's no answer, but everything happens for a purpose, I'm not God, so I coudln't tell you what that purpose is. Go live in sin, no one is trying to stop you. What you do has nothing to do with whether you're a Christian, or not. Your works don't get you to Heaven, the Bible says there will be many good people in Hell. Goodness, doesn't get you into Heaven. No matter how "good" you may think you are, or anyone thinks they are, they are in no way perfect. So, God cannot let you into his presence, unless you have Jesus in your heart.

    Not sure why I'm writing all this, I'll just get told how wrong I am. *rolls eyes* This is ridiculous.
     
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    If you kill someone and manage to somehow get rabies from that, it's your fault, not God's.

    And since we are human, none of us are innocent. We all sin and do bad things. But if someone "innocent" does die, it doesn't automatically mean that it was God who did it. It was an accident. Don't be so eager to blame God for things like that. A family friend died recently from lung cancer. None of us blamed God because we knew that he didn't kill her, her descision to begin smoking was what killed her, not God.

    When he sent Jesus to Earth to save the fate of mankind, I am talking about their souls being saved. Before Jesus died, all people went to Hell, because that is the place that they deserved. Same as it is today, no one is good enough to go to Heaven, we all sin, but because Jesus died, those who accepted Jesus will be forgiven those sins and allowed into Heaven. So when I said, "God sent his only son to save the fate of mankind" I am saying that because he allowed Jesus to be sacraficed, those who accept Jesus will be saved from Hell and be allowed to enter Heaven. And Jesus was special because he was God in the flesh. He was a perfect person.
     
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    SO God allows people to die because they dont believe in him?
    I bet at least half of the soldiers that have died were even more devoted christians than you, and when there in the middle of the gun fights bullets goin everywhere and all their friends dieing around them, they dont pray to god?
     
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    watever minus -Rep me for cussing when u read this but dont ----ing -rep this dude for posting those q's on the bible and his opinion, he did nothing wrong posting that, u chose to read it and respond or have an opinion as did he, he didnt start the flame war, other people flamed on his post, it was his view he didnt say i hope all christians die he said answer these qs so if ur minus reping him for this u are very immature, think it thru heres a rep point back man =)
     
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    i cant believe people have -repped him for making this topic, he has a right to question the bible, he didnt start a flame war. Flame wars start up when little kids get involved and can't handle criticism (Check Signiture)
     
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    If you read the rest of my post, instead of picking out bits and pieces, I said everything happens for a reason.
     
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