Explain Thyself!

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  1. RebelYell101

    RebelYell101 Well-Known Member

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    Edited because people are...well, rather stupid...
     
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    That's quite racist you know..
     
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    If he's such an idiot to go and send me to hell for not believing in something and for following what I think is right, then he can send me to Hell for all I care.
     
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    I'll take off from Flante Juice...

    He put it there to test Adam and Eve. He knew that they would eat it, but he wanted them to confess their sin of eating it to him.

    Sex can be a good or bad thing. Sex is meant to be between husband and wife, which makes is a good thing. But when adultary occurs, it destroys the marige.

    Because he was God in human form. And yes the end of the world IS coming. Think about the world right now, Africa is loosing MASSIVE amounts of people, the Middle East has pretty much gone to hell (no offense to anyone), China is spewing out massive amounts of pollution. Genocides are happening. Tell me that the end of the world isn't nigh.

    Miracles still do happen. Just because you don't see a person performing a "miracle" doesn't mean that they still don't occur.

    I don't know, maybe someone else can answer this for me.

    I don't know either, lol. Can someone else answer it?



    Because it's a natural thing. It's necissary for the food chain.

    How should ANY of us know that?

    He wants you to worship him. But it is your decission not to. But the result of rejecting him is not being accepted into heaven.

    Possibly to test his followers, the Jews.
     
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    Bah, this will take longer than I thought. Several days probably. Ya know, thus far all the scripture quoted has either had nothing to do with the question, been misinterpreted, or been taken out of context *shakes head*
     
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    I'm going to answer one question. Question 30.

    God doesn't cause anyone to sin, that's satan, BUT God hardened Pharoah's heart to further His kingdom. It was God's purpose that the Isrealites be led out of Egypt, and that couldn't have happened with Pharoah being on the Isrealites good side could it? Why couldn't God do whatever He wants? It's His world anyway right? Who are we to question His motives?
     
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    I'm not lazy, its just that faith is something you have to do for yourself.

    God does things that none of us can possibly imagine, which is probably why all these questions are here.

    I honestly don't know the answers to all of those questions, but I don't have to, to believe in God. Religion has never been about facts.

    P.S. Pretend God doesn't exist. What is wrong with asking for forgiveness everyday, and trying to follow the ten commandments? For forgiveness, its more of a better safe than sorry thing, and the ten commandments, even if you don't believe they were made by God, they're still good to live by.
     
  8. Dr. Agon

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    1. If I asked for forgivness, that would mean i believe in God
    2. Even if I could convince myself to pray to something i don't thinl exists, id rather not lie to myself (and therefore God) just to be safe.
    3. Agree with you bout the commandments though
     
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    Saying God doesn't exist means that we came from nothing. Saying we came from nothing is a scientific impossibility. The laws of our universe state this. Something does not just come from nothing unless something else causes the universe to break from the laws that are set.

    Also, what are the chances of nothing becoming an amoeba (sp?), then ending up where we are today? There's no inbetween. Why would eyeballs form? According to scientists, it would take millions of years, but that's millions of years that eyeballs are just a waste of space. Wouldn't we, according to what scientists say, not form eyeballs because of the waste? It's like me having part of another appendage, but only part. It's uesless. I'd get rid of it if I could.

    Cells don't just organize according to whatever they want. They have, programmed within them, their purpose, and they act according to that. It's called DNA and is too complicated for us to understand, so how could it just be some random sequence? If it were random we'd look like some ditto or something from pokemon, if even that.


    That is the only other thing you can believe. It's either evolution, or God. And evolution makes no sense to me. I have researched it, been forced (yes FORCED) to learn it in school as though it were a fact, and still I do not see how it is possible.



    Muahahahahaha!!!!
     
  10. Dr. Agon

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    for the most part I don't believe in a God because:
    1. All the holy books were written by people, so are naturally full of mistakes.
    2. I disagree with a lot of issues that religion deals with. (i.e. homosexuality, sending inoccent people to eternal damnation ect.)
    3. I tried going to church once, but made clear my personal beliefs on the issues stated above, and they alienated me.
    4. the biggie for me (already hinted at it once) I'm not going to endorse a religion, or belive ina God, that will send perfectly good people to eternal torture. For example, if my family has been Muslim for generations, and all I know is Islam because I've never been to any other church, I;m instantly going to Hell? thats stupid


    I'd like to point out I tried to respect your beliefs, but my respect for your opinions end when you start trying to sway mine.
     
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    lol whoever wrote this must have had the IQ of a brick wall.

    about 95% of these questions are easily answered, and the other 5 would take about 15 minutes to gather an appropriate answer for. However considering that there are 149 of these that would take way to much time to answer properly.
     
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    1. The bible was written through people, by God.
    2. You don't have to agree with everything a religion does/believes. Much like a political party. Just believe that there is one true god, and ask for forgiveness.
    3. Most churches won't alienate you, don't let one bad experience keep you from an eternity of perfection with God.
    4. God doesn't punish those people, or send them to hell.
     
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    I just read this one and wow...

    Jesus isn't anti-Gentile at all, he's just saying that his own family needs to be helped before others.

    That has nothing to do with sex.

    This one too has nothing to do with Jesus being "anti-sex".


    And I have never heard anything about Jesus wanting to be anointed with oil in a Pagan sexual rite.
     
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    Yes, I looked at those questions and most of them are not directed towards Christians, but towards making others disagree with us. The majority of them are not even biblical and the opposite of what the Bible actually says.


    Dr. Agon, this is the answer to your last question:

    Rom 3:21-26
    But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God , 24 and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished- 26 he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
    (from New International Version)

    Ignoring the fact that turning from God is a sin in itself... have you ever felt lust? How bout lied? Or even hated a single person for a single moment? That's the answer. No one is perfectly good.



    John 15:9-17
    "As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love . 10 If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love , just as I have obeyed my Father's commands and remain in his love . 11 I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete. 12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. 14 You are my friends if you do what I command. 15 I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. 16 You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit-fruit that will last. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. 17 This is my command: Love each other.
    (from New International Version)



    Jesus loves you either way. Remember that. You know He loves you, it's your choice to love Him back.
     
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    When i was younger i used to enjoy going to church, not for the sake of believing in god but for the tea and biscuits ^_^ But in all seriousness, i used to go with family and friends and i found it rather boring, i dont believe in god and i never will do but i dont judge people who do, they can do what they want because i honestly couldnt give a ----.

    You know when my sister died (still birth) do you know what the priest said to my mum...(god loved your child more than you did, he has taken her to give her a better life) How the ---- can someone say that to a mother who has just lost her child, no god didnt love her more, god had no right taking her from my mum.

    My mum used to believe in him until that day then she became a non believer. However she let her other children (myself, sisters and brother) make up our own minds and to be honest why should i believe in him when he can be as cruel as to take a child from its mother, let her carry her, then when it came to give birth to her, he took her away.

    Also if god is real wouldnt that make us all related? Thats one question i ALWAYS ask but no-one can ever seem to answer it. Because if god put only 2 people on the Earth at the beginning, they have sex, have a child(ren) they then have sex and have children (which is the only way i see that they could do it) then we are all related.
     
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