befor you git wow you really got to go throught web sites and read gides on it other wise you git confused quick i like gw becuse its not that far off from wow its just a bit simpiler and its dosent have a reocering fee
WoW = grinder game, the more you play the better you are GW = Easy as ---- to reach max level, hard to beat 10 guy 4 levels higher than you by yourself, but possible with proper skill selection. Wow takes a lot less skill and a lot more time, and you have to pay per month
For anyone saying that WoW is more gear-dependent over skill-dependent, you need to stop talking out your asses. The only truly gear dependent class is the warrior, because his gear directly relates to how long he can survive and keep the party alive. EVERY other class can be played with skill and beat those with gear and no skill quite easily. Take rogue's for example, they can stunlock opponents for almost a full minute, and you are capable of dishing out approximately 200 DPS (damage per second) without the usage of poisons (which would stack up to about 260 DPS), meaning you can effectively dish out 15,600 damage without even having gear that is very special (that has no bonuses from gear incorporated other then the damage from weapons base damage and having level 60 and a full skill set). ALL of the casters in the game are skill dependent, and having better gear only helps you, it doesn't do the job for you. Its the same in GW, just rather than your weapon and runes being the only thing you can upgrade your equipment with, there is a HUGE selection of equipment that you can get, and then upgrade. Just take your weapons and make that into gear for the rest of your body, while that would make your GW world broken, it makes the WoW world realistic. Also, when you have 40 people communicating via TS or Vent in order to take down monsters, I think that requires a bit more than gear. It requires knowledge of the game, your class, your party (or raids when they are a party of that size), and skill. Also, WoW has diversity, where GW does not. Yes, I have 4 level 20s in GW, all of whom have beaten the factions campaign and have been around since the beginning of prophecies, and my warrior is currently outfitted in about... 21,300 plats worth of equipment (via shields, swords, axes, fissure armor sets, etc.) and all of my characters have fissure armor, and usually 1 set of 15K that is switchable based on the occasion (if i wanna be axes, swords, hammers, use a str shield or tactics shield, or heal/protection/divine/etc.). I have played both for quite a reasonable time, and before getting into the WoW realm and further into its leveling progression on my CASTER (the ones that require skill to use effectively) I believed the same thing as all of you ignorant people claiming GW is better because it requires skill (which is BS, you can PvP to like rank 9 using stupid ass I-WAY team structure) and takes FAR less time to become setup in it. I mean... in GW you can hit level 20 and finish all the missions in under 2 days and have a full set of fissure armor in full runes if you played the game right (and yes, I have done it, as my monk did it) without even taking money out of you stash (it takes alot of lower level AoE grinding and selling it off, but 48 hours of game time and its possible). In WoW, the equivalent of level 20 and FoW/UW is level 60 and MC/Ony (and there are 3 other far harder raids after those on the difficulty scale). Level 60 and the ability to run MC and Ony takes a well established guild with 40+ members of level 60 (and you cant do public groups to those areas, just FYI) to even begin clearing it, and you only gain knowledge of the dungeon the more times you enter and fail and try again. So where you can do a full FoW or UW run on a brand new character in under 2 days, it takes approximately 3 months of non-hardcore gaming to get EACH player to level 60, and approximately another 2 months to get them all setup in the correct gear for MC/Ony (resistances being key, or you will die), and then another 2-3 months to do 1 full MC/Ony completion without wiping (complete party death) and giving up because of suffering durability loss from death. So please, all of you people claiming WoW requires no skill, you need to know what your talking about before making ignorant statements.
buy wow and at GW you can only get to lvl 20 lol that sucks wit wow till lvl 70 cuz there coming a new thing soon i just bought wow and im totaallly hooked :OlO==
In my opinion neither game is really better than the other.. it really comes down to what sort of game your into, if your really into PVE (exploring the world, fighting npcs ,etc,) then WoW is probably a better choice of game for you on the other hand if you prefer to play PVP (fighting against other human players) then GW is probably a better game for you to start playing.
It is you talking out your ass. And I have just this to say Wow Glider. Also everytime I try to get in a group "rofl noob go raid X to get better gear you suck ". Anyone who beats any of the Guildwars games in under 2 days is a veteran easy as that. Nightfall just came out and people are still on the ----ing noobie island asking questions. Yes some people CAN beat the game in under 2 days but again wow glider and please dont say people dont use it glider is huge and so many people use it to level. Bots are everywhere in WoW as they are in GW but not as common. Ive been playing GW for over a year now and cant afford FoW so you truely must be a grinder which I can see why you like WoW. I just hit over 200k all together in my account and I know people who have been playing the same time. FoW cost over 1million gold and that is not easy to get unless you buy it of course. Everywhere I go in WoW its "uber raid dood lets get uber x gear ya! ". Im a warlock and even then " your gear sucks lawl noob ". Which is why I play everquest 2 the most and have played Everquest for over 6 years and love it Either way WoW and GW are two TOTALLY different games and both have their flaws and good things about them I got to 60 with one of my char and then i joined an endgame guild. This is when wow really showed its ugly side. Repetative, and scripted; two word for endgame. i dont feel like i accomplished anything when i recieved an epic and the dungeon lay outs are that of a 2 year old. fastest we completed mc was in 5 hours to long and then they release new content forcing more grinding. the games endgame content is repetative and its not new exciting or intuitive. My closing comments are that this game feels to much like work and should be constantly feeling like the first day you put that disc in your drive. not waste countless hours on something as repetative and time wasteful. the endgame content is made for you to not stop.
WoW glider is a bot... and not allowed by WoW ToS... and its obvious your trying to get a group with people who don't know what they are doing. I had a similar problem with my level and not being able to go to a certain instance because I apparently wasn't a high enough level... Funny how I was the first one to actually get through that instance without a single wipe in the guild without using anyone else from the guild... but I was still too low of a level. Also, yes, I am a huge PvE person, but I still prefer WoW's PvP over PvE as when you can get yet another set of 40 people to go against one another for countless hours (yes, the AV has been known to last upwards of 12 hours, and this is not a tournament, its a casual BG, its like the GvG in GW). Yes, the end-game of WoW is very, very repetitive which is why most players start a new character, or they PvP, etc. in order to ease their mind off of raiding constantly. However, I can say the exact same thing about GW, its repetative from the beginning. The first time you finish your Prophecy or Factions campaign its fun, the second time, even from the beginning, your bored beyond belief. Thats where WoW shines. Races get different starting areas, races get different skills, races get different quests, each class is needed, each class is different, each class has different quests, etc. No matter what you choose to do in GW, anything after your first character is pure, unadulterated boredom all the way though, as you do the same quests, same missions, etc. Thats the reason so many people have 1 main character and use their other character slots for different PvP characters, or, be like myself who has been playing since GW came out and have a monk and a warrior, the monk for farming purposes (pre-nerf when she used to solo UW, for example) and then you unlock everything in PvP by using all the gold you've made and buying all your skills, all the unid wep upgrades you can find, etc. and then sometimes you sell your gold on ebay, then pay someone to farm faction for you on the items your having trouble unlocking. I really just don't care for PvP much in videogames, which is why I choose WoW over GW. And glider has nothing to do with anything except leveling. Those who level the old fashioned way (you know, the person actually questing and such) end up being able to do stuff without the items that other people need the items for. As said, if you know how to play your character, you don't need the gear, but if you don't you probably do, and you also probably shouldn't even be playing the game in the first place.
Um... I finished the factions campaign the third day the game came out. We were one of the first groups to finish it I believe. Anyways, Then you've got so much to do, alliances, more question, faction. The campaign is half of PvE in factions.
I dont mean complete as in the story line, I mean my warrior and monk have 90% map and 80% map (respectively) and all missions/bonuses done, and all the quests needed to be done.
I pay guild wars...WoW is too expensive and too long imo. GW I can beat the game in 2 or 3 days, then move on to more important things like fissure armor, or HoH.
