Building A Computer

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  1. xerolide

    xerolide Well-Known Member

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    Lovely, just found out that I'm getting a new computer. Problem is that I'm horrible with any sort of hardware, apart from the basic stuff that is. :tongue: I'll probably only be using the computer to play games like CSS, BF2, WC3 and other normal games. I'll also be using it for stuff other stuff like Photoshop, but nothing too straining. So I was wondering what I should get, don't make it too expensive - just modest, hehe. :rofl:

    So far, I feel like getting:

    Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6400

    Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard

    Case: XION XION II XON-103 Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450W Power Supply

    And now I'm lost for the rest. :lol: Any ideas ? :tongue:
     
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    good, so far.

    Xelink will probably tell you to get a different board, but w/e..

    I'm not sure if the PSU that comes with the case is good.

    memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820231041

    hard drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822144415 OR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822144415 (same price)

    DVD-Burner: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16827106019

    graphic card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814102059
     
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    madmav Well-Known Member

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    What's wrong with the mobo xmaster?
    That's the same one i'll be getting.
     
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    I dunno, just wait for him... I always bought ASUS, ASRock or MSI...
     
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    Nothing's wrong with the mobo, but if you just want to spend a little more, then get the DS4(quad core support, xfire, heatpipe), just a little better.

    Also don't forget to include these all:
    DVD Drives
    Monitor
    FDD
    Mouse/keyboard

    You'll probably already have it, but ok. BTW, make sure the ram is COMPATIBLE, these boards are really specific and don't like every ram. Here's a compatible list
    http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17636047

    Best Ram for DS3/4 is Geil 800Mhz Ultra Low Latencies, but I'm using Corsair XMS2 5400C4 which also does it very well.
     
  6. johndapunk FTW

    johndapunk FTW Senior Member

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    Ok, you said nothing to strainuous, so go for the E'6300 instead. You can save yourself a good $40.

    Processor - $ 181.99
    Intel Core 2 Duo E'6300
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16819115005

    Motherboard - $ 142.99
    Gigabyte DS-3 (Same as above)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813128012

    Memory - $219.99
    OCZ Special Ops Edition 2x 1GB DDR2 667
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820227118

    (You can upgrade within 3 months to a Geforce 8 card using eVGA's step-up program. Google it to learn more about it.)
    Graphics Card - $ 179.99
    eVGA 7900GS
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814130056

    Hard Drive - $ 94.99
    Seagate 320GB with PRM technology
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822148140

    CD/DVD Drive - $ 30.99
    NEC CD/DVD R-RW
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16827152070

    If you want that case, you're going to need to get a new power supply along with it.
    Power Supply - $ 67.00
    Enhance 500W Blah Blah..
    http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=PS-E5150GH&c=fr&show=r

    Subtotal: $ 917.94 (Does include Power Supply.)
    Shipping: $ 11.68 (Not including Power Supply because it's from different site.)
    Mail-in Rebates: eVGA $20 MIR, OCZ $20 MIR

    Total: $ 929.62 - $ 40 = $ 889.62





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    Oh yeah, Dev, if you can find a link to a DS4, please tell me. I can't find one for my life.
     
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    Not to sure why you're suggesting a server processor for his desktop build...
     
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    xlink GR's Tech Enthusiast

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    actually that is exactly the baord I woudl ahve recomended if he wants to overclock it. Gigashyte DS3 is one fo the best OCers out tehre, and it costs half as much as anything else compareable.


    RAM - assuming they don't change ICs form micron d9 then this stuff
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820144152

    card either x850XT or GeForce 7600GT(more ro less equal eprformance) I'd lean towards the GT though, more overcloking runs cooelr uses less energy has SM3.

    also, diablo that XEON is netburst, not Core, don't go near it.
     
  11. xerolide

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    Thanks heaps for all your contributions! :lol:
    I did some research after looking at everything and I feel like getting:

    Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz 2M sharing L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor

    Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard

    Hard drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

    CD/DVD drive: Pioneer Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 5X DVD-RAM DVD-ROM 40X CD-R 32X CD-RW 40X CD-ROM 2M Cache ATAPI 16X DVD±R DVD Burner With 5X DVD-RAM Read

    RAM: Kingston ValueRAM 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM ECC Unbuffered DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Server System Memory

    Graphics card: XFX PVT71GUQL3 GeForce 7900GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card

    Case: XION XION II XON-103 Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450W Power Supply

    PSU: Yet to choose. :P

    Are all of these parts good/compatible? Right now I'm just trying to get most of the parts with the best price/performance ratio, though I have added a few exceptions. ;) Though I may have to change a few things around if my computer shoppy thingy doesn't have everything I choose. -_-

    Question: For my mother board, it says:

    "Notice: Only DDR2-800 memory supporting JEDEC approved 1.8V operation with timings of 5-5-5 or 6-6-6 is supported on Intel Desktop Boards based on Intel 965 Express Chipsets."

    I can't seem to find whether my RAM has the 'JEDEC approved' part of the 1.8V operation or the timing on it. Any ideas ?
     
  12. johndapunk FTW

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    Just curious Xelink, it doesn't seem like he will be overclocking (maybe?), so that's why I suggested DDR2-800. Yeah, if he is, I'd go with the Kingston. But uh, ok :)

    The 7900GT isn't really worth the extra money. I still suggest the 7900GS. In either case, get a model by eVGA. If you do, that leaves you the opprotunity to upgrade to geforce 8, and you only have to pay the difference between the cards ( $geforce 8 - $7900GS/GT)
     
  13. xerolide

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    @john: I don't think that I'll overclock, but you never know. :lol:

    Ok, 2 questions now. :)

    1. Would the eVGA 256-P2-N584-AR Geforce 7900GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card be compatible with my mobo?

    I was taking a look at the system requirements, but I'm not sure if I understand this part:

    "An available 6 pin PCI-E power connector (hard drive power dongle to PCI-E 6 pin adapter included with card)"

    2. For my mother board, it says:

    "Notice: Only DDR2-800 memory supporting JEDEC approved 1.8V operation with timings of 5-5-5 or 6-6-6 is supported on Intel Desktop Boards based on Intel 965 Express Chipsets."

    I can't seem to find whether my RAM has the 'JEDEC approved' part of the 1.8V operation or the timing for it. Any ideas ?
     
  14. xlink

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    if you can get a 7900GTO vs. a 7900GT
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814130065

    you can flash the GTO to a GTX(or at the leat go into the autooverclock utility via coolbits for about he ame performance)
    and even without doing that it is only about 3% slower than the GTX at stock...


    and FYI g80(GeForce 8 series) is out next week so if you want to see soem price cuts... I'd suggest waiting jsut a little bit on the card.

    and again, assuming that kinston stil uses micron d9 it's the best for the money.it begs for clocking.d9 can easily handle 2.2V for extended periods so you can easily get DDR800 and beyond.

    i don't know hat ICs the kingston DDR2-800 uses. might be utter carp and the 533 woudl ebbetter not sure.

    180$ though is rediculous for a 1GB kits...
    guaranteed micron d9
    http://www.tankguys.biz/ddr2-3338-p-1689.html
     
  15. johndapunk FTW

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    yeah but if he isn\'t going to overclock, wouldn\'t he be getting better preformance from ddr2-800, regardless of the difference in the IC\'s?
     

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