Ram 2gb Vs 4gb

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  1. AssailantOperative

    AssailantOperative Well-Known Member

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    Well I am ordering my new comp, pretty much the best of everything *I have finally saved up enough*, this is so I can play bf2/2142 and source in high everything. I have 2 sticks of 1gig of ram, and I have 2 open slots left. I was just wondering if it is worth the money to buy another 2?
     
  2. XMasterX

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    if you can pay for it, yes. I'd rather get 2 sticks of 2gb, though...

    And obviously you know of the price gag...
     
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    Miss Shorty G Well-Known Member

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    if u have the extra money then go for it, but its not really needed...id save the money and buy sumthin else
     
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    It's not exactly needed and seeing how it seems they are gouging the prices right now, I am not too sure. I would reccomend the 2x 2GB though for 4GB and that can get expensive, expecialy now for some odd reason.
     
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    hmm well if you have the money i would suggest to get 4gb

    but if not just have the 2gb and just use the money for something else

    unless you really need 4gb of ram
     
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    4 gb would run it a good ammount better than just 2 gigs from what ive seen about system reqs.
     
  7. xlink

    xlink GR's Tech Enthusiast

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    the diference is that 4GB either costs a ----load and yields low performance OR it is essneitally two 2gb kits and it assrapes any future upgradeability. Also kiss overclockeability goodby since it puts a huge amount of stress on the memory controller.

    ohh and by the way, as far as I know, there isn't too much that really uses a ton past 512mb for general use let alone 1GB. 2GB covers most hardcore gaming at this moment quite well. not a single game which really uses all that memory, most memory hungry games are BF2, FEAR, and oblivion and they do fine on systems with a mere "1.5GB"

    have fun with ---- performance

    and again 2GB as it is is almost pointless, 4GB is just crazy, wait for memory prices to come down a bit then go for it.

    and this is coming from a guy who has a system with "faster than the fastest available" components.













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    let me explain what RAM is, it is used for data caching(your CPU needs to acces data to work on it and it wants to do it fast with low latency/delay). it is relatively fast compared to your harddrive. their hierarchy of data caching typically begins with your processors l1 cache which is insanely fast and acts at low latency, then it goes to the l2 cache which is still fairly fast and low latency. those two are built into the CPU and typically don't exceed more than a few kb for the l1 and a few mb for the l2. if you run out of space(or the data isn't in the l1) in the l1 it goes to l2. after you run out of l2 cache(or the data sin't in the l2), then you go to the relatively slow system RAM. RAM can operate at various speeds and latencies, typically you want it to run at as high a speed and at as low a latency as possible. then after that, if the data isn't stored in the RAM it goes to the harddrive which is insanely slow. All durring this time, the CPU is sitting there doing almost nothing. you could have a 10GHz Core 2 duo but if you're stuck with a small amount slow RAM then it it wouldn't matter since the RAM would bottle neck it to a fair point.

    that said, since the price gouging in the memory industry began it's been harder and harder to find 4GB sets

    comapre the performance though

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820145044
    (fastest officially relased - note you can get other kits which get the same performance at the same votlage for somewhat cheaper)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820134086

    cst 5 at DDR2-667 is bas since it is measured in cycles. cas 4 at ddr1333 would have the same latency as cas 2 at DDR2-667.

    don't let memor performance affect ro boggle you too much though, c2ds l2 caching system is so efficient memory calls are made relatively infrequentlyso memory performance doesn't matter a ton, but there is a point where the performance loss and excessive price fo 4GB si just rediculous.

    there is a reason why there is no memory fo such capacit marketted to desktops, it's only needed ina server enviroment. wait for 4GB kits to become priced well and add opne to your 2GB kit for 6GB in the future when you actually 'need' it
     
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    i would stick with 2gb if your just gaming if its for design tho at all i would recommend as much ram as needed. dont beilieve me? google mac pro. can hold up to 16 gigs of ram. That just says
    E D I T or D E S I G N
     
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    I have 2 gigs right now and i see no reason to increase it, everything runs smooth
     
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    the answer to more ram is always yes
     
  11. XMasterX

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    the answer to more than 2gb ram is always a waste
     
  12. xlink

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    umm there are servers which hold up to a few TB of RAM this day, my motherboard can hold up to 8GB doesn't mean i will ever use it all.

    again, all 4GB sets are currently developed for the server market, not the performance PC market.

    if you want to run a decent server NOW either 2GB or 4GB will work fine, I'm not talking about a STEAM server either, I mean an actual business server

    to put this in perspective, i notice little diference ebtween running 1GB of RAM and running 2GB of RAM in single channel, performance diference is somewhat minimal, by the time 4GB would begin to be necessary, there will be decently priced 4GB kits and you can get one of those easily.
     
  13. mC² flexik

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    Xelink too pro at Computer stuff O_O.

    I'd say 2GB is enough IMO. I'd doubt you'd ever use 4GB.
     
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    maybe if youre running 10 games at once...
     
  15. N.I.C.K

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    I myself have 20gb of ram and I like it. So maybe you should get more if you can offord it. Especially for major gaming and design.
     

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